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    Ai sucks in some ways and has racist bias. I can’t find the OG post, but just doing this today via DuckDuckGo go on 5.6 Luna.

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      I’ve never used duck.ai before, but I got the same answer for “black guy” as you did, then for “white guy” got tips in how to discretely text a friend to make up an excuse call to get away from him without tipping him off.

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    “massive collapse”? No one supported any of that bullshit, just the rich that were tossing eachother of and calling it “investment” and “better future for everyone”.

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      I think it’s fair to say that people were passive about it in general but now have opinions.

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      As far as industry moving into your area, data centers could be the absolute best neighbors. Hardly any trucks coming and going, no smells or even really any chemicals needed.

      …but the greedy oligarchs manage to fuck it up every time so the only viable answer is to tell them to kick rocks.

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        WHAT, I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE ACCOUNT OF EVERYTHING SOUNDING LIKE A FUCKING JET FROM ALL THE COOLING AND ELECTRICAL HUMMING THAT IS OCCURING FROM THIS FUCKING GIANT DATACENTER THAT STOLE ALL OF OUR WATER SND MADE ELECTRICITY PRICES INCREASE TEN TIMES THE NORMAL RATE

    • Deconceptualist@leminal.space
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      According to the polling, yes.

      Just one year before, 42% of Americans said they opposed AI data centers in their areas, compared with 43% who expressed support.

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      I think a bunch of people may have naively assumed it was a new local industry like a power station or factory.

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        Agreed, people think that a building that large and with that much money going into it is going to need a lot of local employees. When they find out that it just needs a janitorial staff and tons of electricity and water they start to wonder why anyone would want one of these around… especially if it isn’t paying taxes.

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          Its also extracting resources, water and power and land, and sending the value to some multinational who isn’t going to return it to the local economy.

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        honestly, here it kinda is. mistral invested 1.2B€ in a local server hosting company for them to build a dc on the location of the paper mill that shut down a few years ago. paper mills already pull huge amounts of power and put out tons of heat, so the site is already plugged in and connected to the district heating grid. on a local level this is actually good because it means our heating bills go down.

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          Just ignore the noise and pollution. (Yes paper mills are bad, but big datacenters are worse, and without the bonus of employment.)

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            yeah any employment boosts are short lived, but at least there won’t be additional impact here. it’s a town with a giant steel mill in it, which means hydro power out the wazoo (we have four dams just in the city), they’re going to use river water for cooling directly rather than drinking water as they’re on the waterfront, the site is full of chemicals from the paper production anyway so it’s not like it could be used for anything else, and the company isn’t one of the big bads, it’s a local actor who have built all their previous dc’s using stuff like lumber and recycled metals.

            honestly it could be so much worse. i used to live where facebook spun up their first dc outside the us, and they were so used to that flimsy electrical grid they tested their 50MW backup diesel plant once a month. after running for a year without even so much as a frequency drift they stopped doing that but the town did smell faintly of diesel for that first period.

            Edit: i’m hoping it’ll be at least partly colo so they don’t completely collapse in a few years.

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      There never was much support, not for the specific ai datacwnters and not for the “technology” - even many users hate it.

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      I visited my grandparents a few months ago, and they were telling me how they were excited about plans for a new coal power plant and data center planned for a old growth forest we used to go hiking in.

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      Many people hate it, even the AI bros reconsider when it starts affecting them.

      However, corporations need to keep the bubble from bursting or profits will shrink. Thus, nothing is gonna change.

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      According to the polling, yes.

      Just one year before, 42% of Americans said they opposed AI data centers in their areas, compared with 43% who expressed support.