• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    “Imagine calling yourselves the ‘master race’ but forgetting to secure your own website — maybe try mastering to host WordPress before world domination,” Root wrote.

    Fucking gold.

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    [WhiteDate had] A gender ratio that makes the Smurf village look like a feminist utopia

    Lol. I like this Martha Root, I wish her many more happy hacking years.

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      Did they get it wrong? Like Grindr being suddenly popular wherever the Republicans have a convention, maybe the ratio is far better for partner-seekers than it looks on the surface.

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    2 months ago

    Red Power Ranger: Red Power!

    Blue Power Ranger: Blue Power!

    White Power Ranger: Ahh no, fuck this shit… And who deleted my website?

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    Root also published the data allegedly scraped from WhiteDate online.

    The hacker said that they scraped WhiteDate’s public data and found “poor cybersecurity hygiene that would make even your grandma’s AOL account blush.” Root said that users’ images included precise geolocation metadata that “practically hands out home addresses with a side of awkward selfies.”

    “Imagine calling yourselves the ‘master race’ but forgetting to secure your own website — maybe try mastering to host WordPress before world domination,” Root wrote.

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      They literally just typed whitedate.net/download-all-users/ into the browser and the website willingly gave them a button to download all users.

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    “They publicly delete all my websites while the audience rejoices. This is cyberterrorism,” the administrator wrote on X

    Lmao mald harder

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      I mean, it is technically true, but in a trial with a jury of peers it wouldn’t matter. This reminds me of the old school outlaw definition. If you were declared an outlaw the laws of the land no longer applied to you. You could commit crimes, but it also meant anyone and everyone could commit crimes against you without repercussions. It was a bit of a given that you would commit crimes because if you were declared an outlaw you probably were already committing crimes, but now anyone could rob, harm, or even kill you and it wouldn’t be a crime.

      I say fuck these neo-nazis but this is cyber terrorism technically.

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          Eh, I want to like this statement because I hate these people, but I can’t in good conscious call it something it isn’t. This sort of thing is the essence of debate because we have good people doing bad things to bad people and then have to justify why it’s ok despite it being bad. It’s justice vs righteousness, it’s lawful neutral vs lawful good. The only reason why this is acceptable is because it’s against people that we deem not worthy of legal protection, but as a precedent that’s dangerous territory. As soon as the definition of people not worthy of legal protection changes it suddenly becomes a problem.

          At it’s core this person probably committed a crime, but people don’t care because it’s against a bad ideologue. It’s like if we said it’s ok to round up and execute neo-nazis, a lot of people would rejoice, but if you change that to most any other group they would cry about human rights. At the end of the day rounding up and killing anyone is a bad thing no matter who it’s against.

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            At some point the scales will not balance well and you need to be ok with that. There is no paradox of intolerance, for example, because tolerance is itself part of a social contract that bigots broke all on their own and once that’s out the window they do not get to reap the benefits of it. Social contracts aren’t easy math but they do make sense.

            This isn’t blowing up a furry website because someone thinks that’s weird. White supremacy is an incredibly dangerous ideology that has no place in whatever better society we claim to be aiming for. No one killed them for it, either. White supremacy built a website and a better person removed that website the same way one might paint over a swastika but leave the nice mural.

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              I agree with the sentiment, but sadly can’t agree with the implementation. Laws exist in a neutral environment, you can’t bypass them just because the other party is someone society disagrees with. Even if they are committing crimes you can’t unilaterally exact justice against them due to vigilante laws.

              This event took place in Germany, Crimical Code §§ 202a-d criminalizes unauthorized access, interception, and manipulation of data, with penalties ranging from fines to imprisonment, covering acts like phishing and data espionage. Within German law this should be a crime. Germany has laws against neo-nazis, but this would be vigilantism which Germany also prohibits.

              It’s a slippery slope to ignore your own laws because they support the popular narrative.

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                Even if they are committing crimes you can’t unilaterally exact justice against them due to vigilante laws.

                You can actually, self-defense to stop someone from committing a felony is legal in the US.

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                  In no court in the world would you be able to say you were acting in self-defense while acting from 6000 km away.

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    2 months ago

    Now we need a website that we can add to that doxxes them that we can browse like a Nazi Facebook site, but frozen in time.

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    I’m thoroughly confused about WhiteDeal.

    A service where one contracts other white supremacists to do menial ad hoc jobs for a cost under the market price just seems so very antithetical to the whole “supremacy” thing.

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      I think it makes some sense. To be a white supremacist, you have to not think too hard. To be a libertarian and against minimum wage, you have to not think too hard.

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        This is part of our problem as a country. Everyone has to fit into a box. I am a Libertarian, but I also believe in a universal basic income along with a minimum wage. I believe that a fiscally responsible government can and should provide basic services to its constituency.

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          Yeah … I know someone else already said this but you’re absolutely not a Libertarian. So, good news, you can throw that box out and realign your language.

          Also, I get that it’s a talking point but I think everyone believes in a fiscally responsible government. It’s just some weird right wing double think trick people say to imply the other side does not want that when in reality the Dems (if we’re framing this through an American lens) want fiscal responsibility just as much as any other party or persons.

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            You don’t know anything about me other than the fact that I support two social programs. Who are you to say who or what I am?

            Yes, those programs are absolutely not something that the Libertarian party would ever endorse. That doesn’t mean I don’t have the same belief in smaller government, states rights, and fiscal responsibility. I belong to the Libertarian party, that doesn’t mean I have to BE the Libertarian party.

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              Ok … So you’re mad I said you’re not a Libertarian and now you’re just explaining how you’re not a Libertarian?

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                Truthfully, it really doesn’t matter what you think of me or my views. My whole point is that the lines between parties is not nearly as cut and dry as people seem to believe.

                Just because someone is pro-choice doesn’t mean they aren’t a Republican. If they believe in universal healthcare, it doesn’t make them a Democrat.

                Thanks for the conversation.

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          While it is possible to self-identify as a libertarian and hold those beliefs, you have to understand that it disagrees with the general concepts of libertarianism as understood by other people.

          To put it another way, you sound a little bit like a vegan eating tuna.

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            Contrary to popular belief, you don’t have to agree with every single guiding principle of a party to be a part of it. Most of the country isn’t on the left or the right.

            Most of us are in the middle and only vote for one party or another out of FUD. I am done with that shit. I vote for the person I think is best for the job.

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    In the early 90s, my grandfather assured me that he fought and killed nazis, so that my generation would never have to deal with them.

    He didn’t say he cancelled the nazis. The word he used was “Exterminated”.

    Maybe we should all do that again. Exterminate the nazis. Because quite frankly, this government is lousey with them.

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      Nazis weren’t exterminated, the US government hired quite a few (and that’s not counting the ones who went on vacation to Brazil in 1945)

      Maybe we should do it right this time.

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        The biggest sin of the American government was failing to hang every single confederate sympathizer. The problems only cascade from there.

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          This is where I am at where MAGA is concerned. It would be a crimson lining to a 2nd American Civil War, where I and others can free our society of Nazi kindred for good. IMO, the 1% of America are very likely to sympathize with the Confederates, because they believe that slavery of the poors is the natural state of things.

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            The problem is how do you find them all? You never will since some of them are smart enough not to advertise how vile they are. And as long as a few of them still exist they’ll multiply and spread their shitty philosophy.

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              An anonymous internet allows Nazis to connect with each other without fear of social or legal consequences, thereby raising their confidence in/dedication to their ideology.

              It’s certainly not on a par, but the same thing happens with weird kinks- I have one I probably would have forgotten about if it weren’t something that I then found online. Instead, because I saw that it wasn’t just me, I had the confidence to tell partners about it. And it was only because I found queer online communities that I was able to explore my gender identity and sexuality in the same way.

              I absolutely support an open and anonymous internet, I just don’t know if there’s a way to stamp out bigotry and fascism while having one.

              Or rather, I know how to do it, I just don’t know if we can. The answer is absolute solidarity among non bigots against anonymous bigots: cancel your contracts with platforms that host fascists or bigots, tell them and everyone else why, and get others to do the same.

              Of course, at this point there are enough of them to have their own economy, so it’s not going to work now. This is more like the wound care to prevent a recurrence of the infection, instead of the infection treatment itself.