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slothrop @lemmy.ca to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

Kaine says US boat strikes likely killed people 'not involved in narcotrafficking': 'Murder victims' - ABC News

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Kaine says US boat strikes likely killed people 'not involved in narcotrafficking': 'Murder victims'
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Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., said that the military has “exceeded” the parameters of President Donald Trump’s orders in striking alleged drug-smuggling vessels.
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  • Zak@lemmy.world
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    It’s murder even if someone is likely involved in drug trafficking. Nobody involved has been tried or convicted, and the penalty for drug trafficking is not death in any civilized country.

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      Singapore would care to disagree

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore

      The most recent execution conducted in Singapore took place on 23rd July 2026, when a 35 year old Singaporean was hanged for drug trafficking.[5]

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        Singapore’s “justice” system isn’t civilized, though. It’s draconian to the point of barbarism.

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          Yeah most countries would disagree with Singapore, so I don’t get the point they are making. Affirmation bias, probably.

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        The “civilized” qualifier was intentional.

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        I wouldn’t call that place civilized

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        You honestly think Singapore considers themselves… “civilized”?

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    To the shock of absolutely no one who has been paying attention.

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    Aside from the whole No-Shit-Sherlock aspect to this…

    The strikes have killed at least 218 people, according to ABC News’ count.

    The Pentagon has spent over $820 million on the campaign

    Really? More than 3.75 million dollars per “enemy” killed would be a complete boondoggle even if they were valid targets.

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      Jfc, I know I’m against this kind of thing, but for that money you could send me in on an old parachute with a revolver.

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    Way to be 8 months behind, dipshit. As one of my two senators, what are you doing about it? As one of the senators who voted to reopen the government when everybody was on board with keeping it shut down until the right shit got funded, are you starting to understand how fucking wrong you were? Do something of value or fuck off.

    • Snowies@lemmy.zip
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      The government’s reaction to the Trump regime reeks of weaponized incompetence.

      • Malyca@lemmy.zip
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        Because it is

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      He wrote a letter to Trump!

      What do you expect him to do? Loudly demand that this war be ended TODAY, and loudly demand that his fellow Democrats join him, and vote against EVERYTHING until this war is fully ended, close down the government, close down everything until we stop committing world-class terrorism?

      Nah, a letter should do it.

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        A letter that gives Trump an out by saying he didn’t order anything illegal. About as useful as herpes.

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      Way to be 8 months behind, dipshit

      Tbf, that’s almost 34 years further than the “every election takes place in 1992” Clintonite “Centrist” bastard usually is 🤷🏻

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    Usually you have this thing called due process that helps you figure out whether or not the accused are actually criminals.

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      Not in international waters, you don’t.

      There, the US gets to kill brown people indiscriminately.

      /sad

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    Likely war crime

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      The double-tap was definitely a war crime. Attacking people in the water after their vessel was hit is literally the example they use in the part of the US Navy’s manual in the section where they define war crimes.

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    Elect conservatives (regressives), get war crimes.

    And higher costs of living.

    And more transmissible diseases.

    And infringed rights.

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      Did you have your eyes closed whenever the dems were doing their war crimes?

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        You are in fact right, but given a binary choice between war crimes, or war crimes AND Fascists, I’m afraid the right choice is war crimes without the side order of Fascism.

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          I’d prefer if America collapsed and gave the rest of the world a chance to breathe, but that’s just me.

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        I prefer my war crimes when they’re limited to war zones and not entirely randomly across the globe.

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          So you had your eyes closed then, lol

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            Anywhere can be a war zone if you wage war on it.

            You’re not wrong, I was just being glib though.

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        BoTh SiDeS

        • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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          Literally.

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      What’s a war crime if it’s never punished?

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    Bombing before a trial, what could go wrong

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    This loser is part of the problem.

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    I am Jack’s complete lack of suprise.

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    Little late to the party, eh, Tim? Just like the rest of your stupid friends.

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    NO FUCKING SHIT

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    Really? Shocked I tell you shocked.

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    Has America killed innocent American citizens before in order to achieve a goal of theirs?

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      Every day. That isn’t even new for this administration, although they’re more open about not giving a fuck that it happens, and that it’s part of the plan.

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    Ya but they were brown people. No one will be held accountable. Wish I was joking.

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