A reminder to everyone blaming parents: these children are growing up in a world where privacy doesn’t exist, so how could they value it? Corporations are targeting them and influencing their opinions and changing norms with resources a parent couldn’t even dream of. Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. We’re not going to suddenly get better parents anyway, sorry.
I mean, most of your early value comes from your parents (or closest adult influence), and presumably the parents needed to buy the very expensive device.
Again, we aren’t going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you’re correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn’t get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.
Edit: Everybody that’s saying it’s the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?
How about both? They’re not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge that there are systems in plays incentivizing the behavior while also holding the people who do the behavior accountable.
Even if they’re not mutually exclusive, the lion’s share is systemic. For parents that can mean access to healthcare, financial security, access to childcare, access to a good school, and a slew of other things. If people were able to change their finances reliably, there would be no poor people, etc etc… What’s the point of holding someone “accountable” when that maybe changes one or two parents. Even given a 100% reform rate (since I assume you want correction as opposed to punishment) you have to a) wait for deviance to occur b) catch the deviance c) take corrective action with both the parent and the child. Even if we assume only 1% of parents raise children that behave badly, there are two billion children in the world. If I were going to allocate resources to hold people accountable or to provide some sort of actual assistance to parents, 100% is going to the latter. So it’s not that it’s one or the other, it’s that one is useful and one is not.
Blaming shitty people for doing shitty things is fine. Any decent person can recognize the threat they pose. I would never buy a child (or anyone) a pair of these fucking things.
Blaming is the first step towards getting a solution from the people who caused the issue in the first place. Sometimes it’s not to us, specifically, to fix things.
Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem
A system made up of individual people…
No one EVER wants to take personal responsibility. God forbid a parent actually parent and not just hand their child’s mind over to the state.
Timmy - Can I have meta glasses / mindrape myself with brainrot?
Parent - No.
Problem solved over night.
Shifting all of the onus onto the “mysterious system” is exactly what causes these issues in the first place. Its a cop out 100%. “Well I know I didnt even try but but but the system.”
Change happens when individuals nut up and take things into their own hands.
The parents are shitty parents and will continue to be so as long as people keep hand-waving any and all responsibility.
I expect parents not to facilitate harrassment by purchasing pedo glasses for their child. Am I expecting too much? Maybe. But I literally cannot lower the bar any further.
Yet “it takes a school to raise’m”‽
It is the parents job to educate children the value of privacy, and how to maintain it.
Corporations, thus capitalism, exist because the parents have allowed them to invade their privacies too. Corporations wouldn’t exist if the demand for violating privacy existed: the parents are harassers too.
It’s people’s own fault for being surveilled? For being stalked with flock cameras, for example? Just withdraw your consent and everything’s ok and capitalism collapses? If I’m incorrect in my interpretation of your words, please clarify, but in its current form I’m not challenged by it.
It is precisely the fact people are not challenging surveillance, flock cameras, capitalism, and violators of consent that harassment like this is institutionalized. Violations don’t occur overnight. It predates slowly, hunts, and makes itself systemic. Trump & MAGA are a symptom of systemic predation.
Yes… because it’s the parent’s job to make capitalist parasites richer, not raise children. That’s the whole reason we park our kids in the glorified creches called “schools” in the first place.
You can’t expect parents to teach their kids anything the parents never understood (or had the energy to understand) in the first place.
A reminder to everyone blaming parents: these children are growing up in a world where privacy doesn’t exist, so how could they value it? Corporations are targeting them and influencing their opinions and changing norms with resources a parent couldn’t even dream of. Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. We’re not going to suddenly get better parents anyway, sorry.
A reminder to butthurt parents: the way your kid turns out is on you.
I mean, most of your early value comes from your parents (or closest adult influence), and presumably the parents needed to buy the very expensive device.
So yeah they can be blamed.
Again, we aren’t going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you’re correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn’t get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.
Edit: Everybody that’s saying it’s the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?
Refusing to blame the people responsible means you can’t take steps to correcting the behavior. You need the culprit identified first.
Refusing to blame the
peoplesystems responsible means you can’t take steps to correcting that system. You need the incentives identified first.How about both? They’re not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge that there are systems in plays incentivizing the behavior while also holding the people who do the behavior accountable.
Even if they’re not mutually exclusive, the lion’s share is systemic. For parents that can mean access to healthcare, financial security, access to childcare, access to a good school, and a slew of other things. If people were able to change their finances reliably, there would be no poor people, etc etc… What’s the point of holding someone “accountable” when that maybe changes one or two parents. Even given a 100% reform rate (since I assume you want correction as opposed to punishment) you have to a) wait for deviance to occur b) catch the deviance c) take corrective action with both the parent and the child. Even if we assume only 1% of parents raise children that behave badly, there are two billion children in the world. If I were going to allocate resources to hold people accountable or to provide some sort of actual assistance to parents, 100% is going to the latter. So it’s not that it’s one or the other, it’s that one is useful and one is not.
Blaming shitty people for doing shitty things is fine. Any decent person can recognize the threat they pose. I would never buy a child (or anyone) a pair of these fucking things.
Blaming is the first step towards getting a solution from the people who caused the issue in the first place. Sometimes it’s not to us, specifically, to fix things.
Blame and shame, is the name of the game.
A system made up of individual people…
No one EVER wants to take personal responsibility. God forbid a parent actually parent and not just hand their child’s mind over to the state.
Timmy - Can I have meta glasses / mindrape myself with brainrot?
Parent - No.
Problem solved over night.
Shifting all of the onus onto the “mysterious system” is exactly what causes these issues in the first place. Its a cop out 100%. “Well I know I didnt even try but but but the system.”
Change happens when individuals nut up and take things into their own hands.
The parents are shitty parents and will continue to be so as long as people keep hand-waving any and all responsibility.
Like, I agree with you, except that
Could mean people get new legislation passed or something. Otherwise, we’re basically just telling people to choose not to be addicted to heroin.
If you expect people to be better than they are, you’re going to be as disappointed in people as I am with your counterpoint.
I expect parents not to facilitate harrassment by purchasing pedo glasses for their child. Am I expecting too much? Maybe. But I literally cannot lower the bar any further.
are these at a price point kids can just buy without daddy’s money?
At these supply rates kids can just get them without an evil corporation making them?
Yet “it takes a school to raise’m”‽
It is the parents job to educate children the value of privacy, and how to maintain it.
Corporations, thus capitalism, exist because the parents have allowed them to invade their privacies too. Corporations wouldn’t exist if the demand for violating privacy existed: the parents are harassers too.
It’s people’s own fault for being surveilled? For being stalked with flock cameras, for example? Just withdraw your consent and everything’s ok and capitalism collapses? If I’m incorrect in my interpretation of your words, please clarify, but in its current form I’m not challenged by it.
It is precisely the fact people are not challenging surveillance, flock cameras, capitalism, and violators of consent that harassment like this is institutionalized. Violations don’t occur overnight. It predates slowly, hunts, and makes itself systemic. Trump & MAGA are a symptom of systemic predation.
Now tell neighbors if they are ok being quartered by a predator. Because essentially, <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“16” height=“auto”> has been a predation paradise since forever.
That argument sounds an awful lot like: look at what she was wearing. Victim blaming is gross.
Yet ⅓ of the <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”> population voted for the predators. That’s grosser.
Yes… because it’s the parent’s job to make capitalist parasites richer, not raise children. That’s the whole reason we park our kids in the glorified creches called “schools” in the first place.
You can’t expect parents to teach their kids anything the parents never understood (or had the energy to understand) in the first place.
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