• zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    Again, we aren’t going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you’re correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn’t get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.

    Edit: Everybody that’s saying it’s the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?

    • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
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      1 day ago

      Refusing to blame the people responsible means you can’t take steps to correcting the behavior. You need the culprit identified first.

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          How about both? They’re not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge that there are systems in plays incentivizing the behavior while also holding the people who do the behavior accountable.

          • Even if they’re not mutually exclusive, the lion’s share is systemic. For parents that can mean access to healthcare, financial security, access to childcare, access to a good school, and a slew of other things. If people were able to change their finances reliably, there would be no poor people, etc etc… What’s the point of holding someone “accountable” when that maybe changes one or two parents. Even given a 100% reform rate (since I assume you want correction as opposed to punishment) you have to a) wait for deviance to occur b) catch the deviance c) take corrective action with both the parent and the child. Even if we assume only 1% of parents raise children that behave badly, there are two billion children in the world. If I were going to allocate resources to hold people accountable or to provide some sort of actual assistance to parents, 100% is going to the latter. So it’s not that it’s one or the other, it’s that one is useful and one is not.

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      2 days ago

      Blaming shitty people for doing shitty things is fine. Any decent person can recognize the threat they pose. I would never buy a child (or anyone) a pair of these fucking things.

    • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Blaming is the first step towards getting a solution from the people who caused the issue in the first place. Sometimes it’s not to us, specifically, to fix things.

      Blame and shame, is the name of the game.