I have spent hours looking through the files and some of the stories are absolutely disgusting. I am having such a hard time because so many citizens don’t even know how awful they get and they aren’t all even fully released… I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything… He had a ranch where a witness wrote in saying there are TWO bodies located on the property and they haven’t even reported that in the media. I’ll link that one below too. It’s just so… Horrible. We can’t just pretend this doesn’t exist… but idk what happens next for the United States and the world. It’s not something a country just moves on from.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00078198.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01249507.pdf
What else are liberals going to need to realize that there is no reform for this sytem? I couldn’t fabricate something that so obviously demonstrates that this system is built to the benefit of the wealthiest through the brutalization of everyone else.
No bro please just vote for Newsom this one time bro let the billionaires just do a little more child raping so that way I won’t need to move away for another couple years please
Atm, anything in the Files critical of the current Ukrainian leadership or that connect Epstein to human trafficking in or through Ukraine is getting blasted as “Russian Propaganda”. So it looks like we’re back to the old Hillary Clinton game of insisting “Stupid Internet conspiracy theories are making us lose”.
They believe they’re financially comfortable and not in any danger as long as they only make sad noises and wring their hands about “the issues we face” and “problems that need to be fixed”. They still rely on being a cog in the system to eat, so they can’t really bring themselves to bite the hand just yet.
They won’t get angry until they realize it’s their retirement, lives, and children at risk. Even then, they’ll rationalize a lack of action due to “powerlessness”, conveniently forgetting that the first step is organization, not leaping onto action as an individual and getting steamrolled.
Wasn’t a genuine question, more of an expression of exacerbation. However, I think this is a stance that demonstrates a less actionable understanding of liberals.
It’s true that many have a material interset in the maintenance of capitalist systems – and all the violence that is necessary for them to exist whether they acknowledge that openly or not – but you’re framing it moralistically as though these people also choose to both be dependent on that system, and be neglected the knowledge and skills necessary to recognize necessary action. I do understand the pessimism deeply, as my experience has taught me that many do choose to remain in ignorance when the opportunity is given; for a number of reasons, but entitled petulance is certainly a factor. If you listen to workers though, you’ll notice they do understand that the issue is systemic and not effectively met by individual action. As you said, recognizing what that systemic failure is, who it serves and why, and how to organize in opposition to it are skills that require years of knowledge building to develop. Even further, fascist disinformation campaigns are made more effective by this ignorance when they validate internalized setter-colonial values which these people obviously don’t know to be fascistic in the first place. There’s nothing convenient about being purposefully disempowered, and no shame in the inability to sacrifice the wellbeing of your dependents to participate in action (or “bite the hand”) if you’ve never been taught about organization.
When you say this, I can’t help but wonder if you’ve seen firsthand the immense levels of anxiety in working-class, blue-collar families as the failures of this system become undeniable and they are indeed unable to understand exactly what to do about it. They don’t need the system to completely fall apart to become motivated, many have felt insecure their entire lives and suffered the everpresent threat of homelessness or disability inflicted on them and their families. Those same people have been receptive to systemic change for a long time, and you’re right, they are victims of a system that holds their security hostage behind compliance. Maybe if you’ve only lived in an affluent suburb, it’s easier to entertain the idea that people only ever choose inaction, but I’m afraid this thinking is more limiting than the catharsis is worth. I’ve found it better to meet them with empathy and focus on language building or talking points that emphasize the insecurity of this system that they intuitively know to be true, and educate them on different risk levels of action. There isn’t a threshold where people like that will suddenly be receptive to systemic change, they’ve wanted it their whole lives and we’re seeing the consequences of their desire in the success of populist fascist rhetoric in this moment.
When you say this, I can’t help but wonder if you’ve seen firsthand the immense levels of anxiety in working-class, blue-collar families as the failures of this system become undeniable and they are indeed unable to understand exactly what to do about it.
I’m part of one of those families. I’ve lived among them my whole life. It’s not a moral judgement, just an observation on human behavior. And I was talking about those in the suburbs more than my own neighborhood.
Then you do get it to a degree, hopefully. This is moralistic though, the assertion that this reflects some natural human behaviour is as well. Suburbs are also not only home to the affluent, suburban sprawl has made them affordable and effective sites of working-poor isolation and precarity exactly because they have hindered the construction of high-density housing and are so difficult to survive in without a reliable flow of cash. If you’ve lived in communities of factory workers who, while tenuously secure, remember the 2008 Recession sharply, then you know what I mean when I say that there are liberals who understand that foundational systemic change is needed but do not have the time or energy to learn what that means in like terms to what socialist and anarchist theorists or activists use.
It really is unsatisfying to lose the option of discarding people in catharsis, but that is necessary to foster empowerment of workers who only have the tools they’ve been given.
Then you do get it to a degree, hopefully.
Look, so, I know I came across as dismissive in my first reply, but you’re also coming across as really condescending. Not sure if you’re aware, but if your intent is to reach out with empathy and understanding, you might want to consider that.
I get it. I’ve been reaching out to people for more than 30 years and watching them consistently go against their best interests for about the same amount of time. A little cynicism is natural.
I’m sure in a face to face we’d probably agree on most things, but this conversation doesn’t feel productive. Thanks for taking the time to reply and good luck out there.
When are leftists going to actually do something? Like. Sure. I’d be happy under Communism, but the momentum just isn’t there in America, unfortunately
Way to self-report your inactivity. I have never lived in a city in my country without multiple mutual aid organizations that took action to improve the material conditions of marginalized groups or participate in public demonstrations to platform their criticisms that were explicitly anarchist or socialist in their political orientation. I bet you have never actually taken the time to learn just how dependent the US system is on programs developed by Black Liberationist mutual aid groups, or how much of your environmental protections have resulted from indigenous and Native American resistance. Have some perspective ffs, just because you’re just now hearing about these things doesn’t mean they only appear in your line of sight.
PROSECUTE ALL OF THEM
The DOJ has pulled down the second file linked
Not at all to take away from how horrifying Epstein and every other fuck that joined him is, because they’re all fucking disgusting and should be fucking shot. Fuck every one of them.
But also, what the fuck is that font?
There should not exist a class of people with such unaccountable power that they can do these things and get away with it.
This isn’t just about Epstein, Trump and all the other child rapists on those files (although they should definitely go to prison); it’s about the system that makes this possible, and puts the worst possible people in a position to do this and get away with it.
We were warned about greed, money, and corruption. This is the result of us ignoring the problem until it festers and turns into an infection that will eventually kill us. We cannot have a civilized society with these kind of wealth gaps while allowing money in politics.
No one is asking about the girls that did not make it back from the island. These criminals are lucky we are no longer in the medieval period
These criminals are lucky we are no longer in the medieval period
Medieval Europe, a region and time period famous for its strict stance against rich old men having sex with children.
the point is that there is not a critical mass of people willing to risk everything to change things.
In the Medieval times it would be the same. Would the average person really want to try and storm castle against professional soldiers wearing plate armour?
Clearly that wasn’t important enough to keep in his documents. What gets buried at sea, stays at sea.
On a side note, we know that hundreds, sometimes thousands of children disappear in war zones. This has happened in Ukraine, is happening in Palestine. Keeping regions destabilised benefits monsters. I would argue most of the aggressors leaderships are proven monsters. Some of those are very well acquainted with Epstein.
We need to take cadaver dogs to Trumps golf courses and epsteins properties
This isn’t just about America, or MAGA, or even Trump. I always understood that this was an international enterprise, but as I read this stuff, I’m realizing that it was bigger and uglier than my worst imaginings.
I just read about a wealthy guy in a Detroit in the 70s who ran an Epstein-like operation on an island he purchased in one of the Great Lakes. He built a giant mansion on it, and started hosting underage sex parties for wealthy men. The article suggested that he might have been an inspiration for Epstein.
The point is that these people have always been here, and now that Epstein is gone, someone else will be taking his place. Nobody understands the scope of Epstein’s business better than his best friend Trump, who also recognizes how lucrative it is, and he is psychological incapable of resisting those riches.
He also has easy access to plenty of sex products. He has enormous detainment centers full or poorly documented children, separated from their families, lawyers, or anyone else who might care about them. They could be disappeared for a long time before someone notices, if ever. I’m sure we’ll find that the prettiest ones, of both sexes, are being scheduled for transfer…somewhere.
Putin has also kidnapped thousands of Ukrainian children, another source for East European girls, for those who aren’t turned on by brown children.
You can bet that someone is rebuilding an international child sex operation somewhere, and I’m betting that Trump is in on it.
Small correction, Epstein has been replaced for years, they’re not “out of business”.
Business is BOOMING.
we are unaware of the details, as we only get to know decades after the fact, if at all…
It gets even worse when you realize that the reason why these people don’t want social programs is because they need poor, vulnerable kids to prey on. They managed to convince people to literally sacrifice their children, albeit quite indirectly.
Makes you think about USAID…and wtf DOGE may have destroyed there. DOGE’s whole point was to burn as much evidence as fast as possible. Wonder how many of those 125+ year old SSI beneficiaries managed to show up to vote in 2024.
the reason why these people don’t want social programs is because they need poor, vulnerable kids to prey on. They managed to convince people to literally sacrifice their children, albeit quite indirectly.
Good observation. I just saw another comment that said they deliberately expose kids to violent content younger and younger, so they’ll grow up to be good fighting and occupying forces.
When AI/Robotics leads to a 50% unemployment rate (what do you think is the objective of the corporate giddiness of AI? They can’t wait to replace as many profit sucking employees as possible) the military is going to be one of the few income-producing employment paths left. Might as well start their “training” young, with lots of violent entertainment.
You can bet it doesn’t need to be rebuilt because it never stopped and Epstein was just part of an international ring that involved people from all kinds of positions of authority. In my city alone there were law enforcement , boy scout leaders, and Catholic priests all enabling each other and helping to cover up their crimes while flying people in from all over the world to do this fucked up shit.
Thats one city. Imagine that kind of fucked up shit has been happening all over the world for decades or maybe even centuries. No way in hell it ever stopped because Epstein was indisposed.
You know that plot in the original true detective about the Louisiana pedophile murder ring? It turns out that was almost certainly based on real stories.
I will say that it’s fucking insane to think about the fact that Trump and all of his oligarch friends have now legalized kidnapping and trafficking people thanks to ICE/DHS. The implications of what they’re almost certainly continuing to do out in the open have got to be pretty obvious, right?
Kidnapping so many people that you can just get away with just losing track of them? Why wouldn’t they just keep doing the same shit they’ve always done?
and these are the people Iranian diaspora are begging to drop bombs on Iran. I bet their ancestors would be rolling in their graves because of the disgrace some of these diaspora Iranians have become.
Do you have more information about the thing you describe around Detroit?
That’s the one. Fascinating story.
Check out the franklin scandal from the 80s. It might be the same CIA ring as Epstein.
Agreed. We need an assassins guild, but with people who can get the job done rather than nerds like me at the computer. Hell, a million ants could kill someone. Maybe if there are enough nerds…
Luigi 'em all
Remember, the FBI found NOTHING to even start looking into an investigation.
Zero reasons.
Wait until you find out parts of it are still operational
Probably nearly all of it. Epstein and Maxwell are just the bit that was collecting kompromat on the elites.
Exactly, it’s not like they broke up the “organization”. They just said "hey could you guys keep it down in there ".
Yep. Its gets worse even. These animals must be euthanized to stop the spread of the rabies
Yes it’s terrifying, and so is that font you use
❤️justice.gov❤️/epstien🥰/files 🌈🤭
lol I appreciate the font roast. I love my font but I do respect others hate for it.
It was a bit of light in the dark 💕
I love your font.
Same, that typeface is amazing.
