• moxyy@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The promotion of both Stephen Miller and Jim Jordan should be a giant flashing sign on what the next two years have in store. The GOP is not planning on compromise and rational governance - they are putting the pieces in place to escalate.

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      2 days ago

      But but but…. Here Jeffries out here.

      We have to work with the Nazis fucks! What are we gonna do? Actually grow a spine? Deal with corruption? Make life actually better for actual Americans?

      (Fuck the Nazis. Fuck the collaborators.)

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        22 hours ago

        TBF, there’s not much other option - they don’t have the votes to override Trump’s inevitable vetoes, nor do they have the two-thirds majority required in the Senate to impeach.

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          20 hours ago

          If the pass good law, and it gets vetoed, that’s trump’s fault,

          If they pass bad law because they needed Trump to work with them, then it’s their fault.

          “But but…. Compromise isn’t bad” - Trump doesn’t compromise. Neither have the republicans at any point since I’ve been following politics. When only one side compromises, it’s not that. It’s capitulation.

          America did not vote for capitulation.

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            So it’s okay if they waste tons of time and taxpayer money creating laws they know will never pass & thus accomplish nothing just so long as it’s Trump’s fault? Sorry, but I’d rather some pragmatism if it means they can accomplish anything that makes their constituents lives easier rather than just letting things continue to get worse just because they can blame Trump for it. Like El-Sayed recently said, he doesn’t care if they have to call a universal healthcare law “Trumpcare” if it means they can get it passed for the people.

            ETA link

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              16 hours ago

              And when the law is “Kill all the Trans people” and the next one is “Imprison all the immigrants, so we can force them to work” and then “hey, we need a final solution here”… you’re cool with that?

              you’re fucked in the head if you think that’s not where this is going. Where this has always been going.

              and even if you were right, and it is a better path. they’re not going to win in 2028. which means every if-you-squint-at-it-it’s-not-so-bad law that gets passed won’t mean a fucking thing, just like how all the milquetoast basic-as-fuck shit Biden got done no longer means a damn thing.

              you want change? Or do you want to continue the slow slide into fascism?

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                16 hours ago

                Oh, GMAFB with the over the top crap. No such law is going to be written by the new Congress.

                As far as change goes, this election shows there’s already a building appetite for it - I don’t feel we have to completely destroy the entire country’s lives & rebuild from scratch to get there.

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                  15 hours ago

                  If you think my statement is over the top, go read Project 2025.

                  And by the way, they’re already arresting immigrants and forcing them to work. In fucking concentration camps. Trump has been spewing Nazis rhetoric since before 2016, and if you think compromising with that is acceptable, you need to go touch some grass.

                  My neighbors are being killed and taken of the streets and you think it’s politics as usual.

                  Pay the fuck attention.

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                    14 hours ago

                    Again with the absurd extremes. Nobody is talking about compromising with that shit. That didn’t mean you don’t talk to them at all to try to find some workable angle to try to reach an acceptable agreement. It stands a good chance of never happening, but that doesn’t mean you don’t try.

                    I pay better attention than your narrow absolutist focus obviously allows you to, which makes further discussion pointless. You’re not trying to communicate, but instead condescend. I’m not bothering with your blind hatred bullshit anymore because it’s a waste of time until you grow up.

                    Good night.

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          Political capital is spent and earned via appearance. If you vote for a bad bill, it is on you. If you refuse to vote for a good bill, it is on you. Both actions take political capital away.

          The opposite earns political capital. Take the recent fuckup where 11 democrats decided to attend an Israel-first rally instead of voting to bring the Hegseth impeachment vote to the floor. Those 11 dems essentially fucked themselves. Permanently. They lost all political capital they have, and harmed the democratic party as a whole.

          Just because they chose to miss the vote. They weren’t going to make a difference, realistically, but guess what, the appearance of corruption and compliance is far worse than making a useless vote.

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            16 hours ago

            To the relatively few citizens that pay attention and keep tabs, sure. For the large majority of voters, that’s not the case - short attention spans rule.

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              16 hours ago

              That’s the thing, we don’t need them to have long attention spans. The DSA has proven that Dem on Dem attack ads work, and that the centrist/neoliberal establishment has no actual response for them. Simply having political ads and town halls where you list the failures of democrat incumbents is enough to get them out of office.

              The only problem is republicans are likely to also key into this for 2028.