• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    If the pass good law, and it gets vetoed, that’s trump’s fault,

    If they pass bad law because they needed Trump to work with them, then it’s their fault.

    “But but…. Compromise isn’t bad” - Trump doesn’t compromise. Neither have the republicans at any point since I’ve been following politics. When only one side compromises, it’s not that. It’s capitulation.

    America did not vote for capitulation.

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      21 hours ago

      So it’s okay if they waste tons of time and taxpayer money creating laws they know will never pass & thus accomplish nothing just so long as it’s Trump’s fault? Sorry, but I’d rather some pragmatism if it means they can accomplish anything that makes their constituents lives easier rather than just letting things continue to get worse just because they can blame Trump for it. Like El-Sayed recently said, he doesn’t care if they have to call a universal healthcare law “Trumpcare” if it means they can get it passed for the people.

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        21 hours ago

        And when the law is “Kill all the Trans people” and the next one is “Imprison all the immigrants, so we can force them to work” and then “hey, we need a final solution here”… you’re cool with that?

        you’re fucked in the head if you think that’s not where this is going. Where this has always been going.

        and even if you were right, and it is a better path. they’re not going to win in 2028. which means every if-you-squint-at-it-it’s-not-so-bad law that gets passed won’t mean a fucking thing, just like how all the milquetoast basic-as-fuck shit Biden got done no longer means a damn thing.

        you want change? Or do you want to continue the slow slide into fascism?

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          21 hours ago

          Oh, GMAFB with the over the top crap. No such law is going to be written by the new Congress.

          As far as change goes, this election shows there’s already a building appetite for it - I don’t feel we have to completely destroy the entire country’s lives & rebuild from scratch to get there.

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            20 hours ago

            If you think my statement is over the top, go read Project 2025.

            And by the way, they’re already arresting immigrants and forcing them to work. In fucking concentration camps. Trump has been spewing Nazis rhetoric since before 2016, and if you think compromising with that is acceptable, you need to go touch some grass.

            My neighbors are being killed and taken of the streets and you think it’s politics as usual.

            Pay the fuck attention.

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              19 hours ago

              Again with the absurd extremes. Nobody is talking about compromising with that shit. That didn’t mean you don’t talk to them at all to try to find some workable angle to try to reach an acceptable agreement. It stands a good chance of never happening, but that doesn’t mean you don’t try.

              I pay better attention than your narrow absolutist focus obviously allows you to, which makes further discussion pointless. You’re not trying to communicate, but instead condescend. I’m not bothering with your blind hatred bullshit anymore because it’s a waste of time until you grow up.

              Good night.

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                19 hours ago

                Again with the absurd extremes

                The absurd extremes that are reality. my neighbors are still being grabbed off the street. People are still being shot. Project 2025 is still ongoing. They’re demonizing anyone whose not one of them, and you’re like “yeah, but, don’t be extreme…” as if this is normal.

                That is what you’re proposing we compromise with.

                That is what Americans voted to reject.

                we tried compromise. it got us four years that did nothing but stall, and now the fascists are entrenched deeper than ever.

                Now, they’re starting wars without congressional assent, bombing civilian fishing boats, abducting foreign heads of state, alienating everyone who used to be our ally, getting into expensive and idiotic trade wars for no purpose at all, looting everything that isn’t nailed down, destroying our cultural heritage sites and monuments; killing the people who stand up for justice, abducting immigrants, violating the constitution, destroying civil liberties, voting rights; raiding congress people’s homes to find evidence on specious charges, threatening DOJ investigations against congress people and other elected officials doing their jobs; lying to the american people about all of it.

                And you think I’m the one being extreme?