Archived copy is here: https://archive.is/DqZ6m
The article says this:
“Immediately withdraw from NATO’s integrated command and then, in stages, from the organization itself. Reject the tribute demanded by the United States of 5% of GDP devoted to defense spending,” read France Unbowed’s 222-page program.
However, France under Mélenchon would still provide assistance to European Union countries under EU treaties, the document added
Is Melenchon right? Is it better for the EU to be the organisation of mutual defence guarantees for Europe, rather than NATO?
Yeah but we already have close diplomatic ties with most of those countries, including some active defense treaties. There’s nothing complicated about expanding that, we have nuclear deterrence and a good-ish army it’s not like countries are going to give us shit. We certainly don’t need the US to achieve that, in fact we specifically need the US to not be involved in it if we want to keep it aligned with our interests.
That is the kind of narrow nationalist perspective Putin is counting on. Yeah, no one will try to attack France directly. Once the EU is functionally dead (either by “reform” to Melechon’s liking or “reform” to Le Pen’s liking), and NATO is gone the rest will fall in place and once Le Pen is elected, there will be no need to attack France, as it will be already under pro-Russian autocratic rule.
It is bizarre that in your comments, anything that is not abject submission to United States interests is seen as destructive nationalism that will bring about the end of everything. Come on man, the world is free to suck Donald Trump’s dick if they like the taste of it but France is a big enough player to say fuck off and go our own way. We have amazing international relationships which we’ve been cultivating for centuries. We don’t need the US payola system to intercede for us with other global powers.
You are completely misjudging my position, to absurd levels. I am actually supporting rapid emancipation from the US and strengthening of European sovereignty. I am against balkanisation of the EU, which incidentially is what both, Trump and Putin want to see and both Melenchon and Le Pen will facilitate.
I see that you are pretty much on that line as well. Congratulations, your position is more in line with what Trump wants than mine. Tragic, isn’t it?
But doing or even saying anything to that effect is “balkanization” and “carrying water for Putin”. How fucking convenient.
Oh yes i’m sure Trump would love if a country like France fell to a popular anti-american pro-socialist movement with enough parliamentary chops to rally other countries in Europe. Must be his wet dream.
Nothing convenient, emancipation needs the building of alternative capabilities first, then you can burn down bridges. As it happens, that is exactly what the EU is doing right now, even if one could argue that even more effort should be put into it. Doing it the other way round just means making it easier for enemies to take Europe apart and yes, that is doing Putin’s job then.
If Trump could choose between a far-left nationalist France that blows up the EU and more Macron with an increasingly independent EU standing, yes Trump would choose the former. Are you really believing the opposite being the case?