• CarstenBoll@feddit.dk
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    4 hours ago

    And do their voters support this, or is it more ‘foreigners bad’ and then they don’t think about the rest?

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      Both :) Plus a “Russia is our friend! They were the good guy and our friend*!”

      *said the east german propaganda

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      As far as i can tell from those of my acquaintances who openly admit to vote vor AfD there is more or less the stance: “Germany first, loose cooperation with the US and Russia but always with the option to play one on the other or stab them in the back if the opportunity arises”… oh and yes: Foreigners bad. Perhaps with some very, very few exceptions like Dubai billionaires or the cliche hard working, diligent Asians…

      Sigh…

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        The thing is, I struggle to see how ANYONE can look at the world today and imagine that a European country will be better off alone without the EU. ‘Foreigner bad’ is at least an undercurrent to all politics everywhere and at all times, and the mechanisms of finding scape goats is well known.

        In Denmark, even the most eurosceptic parties have gone silent on the issue after watching Brexit unfold, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the US turning on Denmark and the rest of Europe.

        I just can’t see how you can be that politically naive.

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          The thing is - and i have to admit that i sometimes fall myself into that trap - is thinking that maybe, maybe if we go back to the good old days of the 80s, when every country in the European Economic Union had its borders with border controls, had their own sovereign currency and was more or less independent, when the world was way, way smaller, industry more local and other countries where - at least in the mind of the average German - far away, things would be more easy.

          But then i open my eyes again and realize… shit ain’t like that! It’s real fucked up!

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    Before every Great War, some countrymen thought it would be a good idea to cuddle up to the enemy. They were always wrong.

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      AfD may be cosplaying “countrymen” and “nationalists”, but large parts are just Russian assets. They don’t think; they just cash in, all the while decrying that the “corrupt elites” are betraying the interests of the country. It’s mindblowing that people fall for this shit. But they do.

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    trump has the receipts on everyone. This is the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise, I just cannot fathom why such a decrepidly addled old coward has command of so many important figures.

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      I think it’s more like Putin (& Netanyahu) got the receipts (Epstein was selling to whoever was buying), Trump is just one of many puppets. I guess “we’ll cosy up to Trump” is supposed to sound better than “we’ll bend over for Putin”. But it’s the same thing

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    You’d really think that with the entire rules-based order of free trade and multilateral agreements at stake, countries would have better foreign-asset antibody mechanisms. You’d want to expect that people would be able to spot obvious lies specifically designed to destroy their countries. You would be wrong.

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      As long as under-educated people are on the drip feed of oligarch-owned media (be they “social” or not), they’ll run into whichever direction the algorithm or the editors push them.

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    We never learn do we? Around and around and around we go, never making progress, just the same old story of shit, repeated again and again. Fuck the AFD