• NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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    2 days ago

    He’s one of those “People you agree with but say it in such an insufferable way you want to disagree” type of people.

    Says politically good things, is very hot, but is also a smug douche.

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      Dark gods yes! He and Vaush have some (some) pretty good takes but damn, they are insufferable. And Hasan is a bit of a tankie on top of that. He has a pretty shit take on Ukraine.

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        Vaush

        The guy who is self-admittedly into bestiality and loli porn? That guy?

        Gross.

        While reacting to a video by Jubilee regarding rape culture, Vaush claimed that Rape Culture exists, that every woman he knows has been sexually assaulted and that reports of sexual assault are not being taken seriously. In the next ten seconds, Sydney Watson talks about her sexual assault story and that the perpetrator was non-white, of a certain religion, and did not get charged due to Cultural Differences. Ian then screamed, “Bullshit!” and accused her of using her trauma to perpetuate the “rapefugee” narrative. The clip was shared to Twitter by Sydney’s friend Brittany Pettibone, and it went viral. Sydney responded to him in Isaac Butterfield’s response video to him.[19][20]

        Ian Kochinski is often accused of being a pedophile. The most common claim rose from a statement that he made about Child Pornography and Child Slavery, where he compared the exploitation of child slavery under capitalism in third-world countries to child pornography, to emphasize the double-standard in where we are easy to condemn child sexual exploitation but turn a blind eye to child labor exploitation, to illustrate how society is far more accepting of child exploitation which is economically beneficial.[12]

        In a hypothetical explaining why rule utilitarianism condemns pedophilia, Vaush said: “it is possible for an adult and a child sexual relationship and for it to have positive outcomes on the child as well. That is possible, however (…)” [13]. Vaush has stated that, if economic inequalities are mended under communism, that it could be justifiable to lower the age of consent to 16, like in the UK. [14] In addition, Vaush has stated that he supports child sexual abuse material in that it is not immoral.[15] On 11 June 2023, Twitter user @Marxist777 make a thread, accusing Vaush being a pedophile. He made a response denying the allegations to this 2 days later.[16]

        He was also caught with AI generated CP on his computer [17]

        Discord discord messages from 2019 were found of Vaush talking about his desire to have sex with horses.[23] In February of 2024, Vaush accidentally opened his porn folder while on stream. He quickly closed it, but the screenshots were shared on X/Twitter and led to ridicule, due to the content of the porn, which included bestiality involving a horse, as well as 2 pieces of Lolicon pornography, which Vaush had previously denounced.[24]

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            No problem. It can be hard to keep up with how these guys are shitbags. Figured I can use my chronically online status to spread some truth.

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        It’s a shame that Vaush’s more combative style of speaking alienated so much of the left wing, because he does do really good political analysis and also advocates for such organizations like Progressive Victory.

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          combative style of speaking.

          All he does is controversy bait. Alienating people on the left isn’t some unfortunate accident, it’s intentional. Controversy sells.

          When you say something edgy, you get three types of viewers. The first type is neutral people who see an argument or controversy and want to be informed about it. The second type are people who see certain groups get “triggered,” and they hate those groups, so they like you because you make people they hate mad. The third group are the haters who hate-watch you, either to more accurately criticize you, or because anger is addictive. Clicks clicks clicks. You don’t get any of those clicks by just saying good reasonsable things that people can agree with.

          I have heard all kinds of things about Vaush, but I have never once heard someone talk about any genuine insight that they got from watching him. Even people who like him only ever seem to make vague allusions or talk about how he offends the right people or how there’s actually justifications for what he does and says if you actually watch him, but typically the entire conversation is dominated by all the attention-grabbing bait he puts out rather than any actual insight or analysis.

          Streamers and YouTubers do this shit constantly. Whether it’s Contrapoints randomly shitting on vegans or Bad Empanada saying trans people just want to feel oppressed or anything Vaush ever says, it’s all the same shit. It’s just drama, it’s just clickbait. And it displays, in each case, prioritization of building their own audiences over any notion of building a mass movement. It also indicates that their content doesn’t really stand on their own, that they have to use those approaches.

          The only leftist streamers or YouTubers I’ve actually learned anything from are ones like Shaun (not very active anymore, though I see he just put out a video) who don’t engage in that shit.

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            For those familiar with Hasan but not Vaush: yes, really, not in the “Hasan advocates for 9/11” sense. This one is real.

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            I’m curious where you got that from him, considering he’s been rather consistent in denouncing that.

            As for the “taxes” folder, he made an entire hour long video talking about his previous controversies, which you’ve mentioned in another comment here. I’d recommend giving it a watch, since most of them are timestamped, and I found it rather informative.

            https://youtu.be/yXZw9vrsAgA

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              I’m not interested in what Vaush says here. What was shown on his own stream when it was revealed he kept loli and beastiality porn was enough for me.

              This kind of argument that the age of consent should be lowered and that children aren’t always harmed when adults rape them is disgusting. Destiny, Vaush, all of them who believe this have no place on the left. Or shouldn’t have a place.

              Why do you defend these types of views?