The past four weeks have been something of a wake-up call for the video game industry. You’ve read the headlines, so you know the deal by now: AI advancements spearheaded by Claude Opus 5.5 have turned the world of coding on its axis. Decompilations that used to take months, or even years, are now being pumped out on a daily basis, and publishers can’t keep up with the deluge of vibe-coded browser ports and “native” PC recompilations.

I’ve been covering and researching this over the past month, and there’s one recurring topic that keeps popping up in every comment section I read: karma. For many, this is the video game industry’s “you reap what you sow” moment, proof that the AI tools many publishers have brazenly admitted to using are a double-edged sword.

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    8 hours ago

    So… this story actually gets funnier.

    Yes that’s right, Teeny Weeny Tim Sweeny showed up in the replies to personally immediately destroy any potential good will this story could possibly have generated for him and Epic.

    Keep swingin’ Tim.

    One of these days, we’ll be able to get rid of the tee ball stand… one of these days…

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    I was pretty curious as to how the mega corporations would react to ai being able to “clone” their paid products, especially because all they want is to prevent ai from being regulated

    I really don’t know how to feel about this, to be honest. I’m definitely not on the corporate side but I also just don’t like vibe coding/generative ai. At the same time I think the ports are pretty interesting (alongside the game in another game things, like Minecraft in GTA 5)

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    10 hours ago

    Epic will simply pay Anthropic a “sabotage your LLM to refuse to undermine our products” fee and then they’ll pass the costs onto their users.

    The only useful LLM (and I recognise that that word is doing a lot of heavy lifting) is one that you own and control. Everything else is just letting some techbro limit what you can do.

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      6 hours ago

      Large language models are easily reproducible, that’s why they’re buying up all the computer parts to makesure you can’t afford run one on your own hardware. Luckily I don’t use these LLMs often enough to justify even using it for free

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      This is why they want the “AI revolution” to make computing too expensive for anyone but them. It’s about way more than control of copyright, more than seizing the means of production for themselves: they want to be able to control narratives, censor the press (established journalism and independent blog/forum posting and socials), and monitor individuals and groups that may oppose them or present dissenting viewpoints. They want summaries they can control, they want one click censorship, and they want us to rent the privilege from them, creating a permanent information-peasant class. They want insider information on markets, they want to know voter sentiment, they want to sway investors and politics to their whims via system prompts.

      We already saw Elon try it (with hillariously bad results) when Grok wouldn’t shut up about “white genocide” in South Africa. Elon is just such a spectacular failson grifter that his plan had no nuance and was plainly obvious.

      But now we know for sure.

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        6 hours ago

        they want an economic moat. otherwise there’s very little additional value over the open weight models which are catching up fast.

    • A good reason to run local.

      Not letting people do things is a great way to dissuade customers from using your hyperscaler service. Except we don’t want anyone using AI to make slop that denigrates others or involves information hazards.

      That might be why Musk and Zuckerberg say don’t in their ToS but yhen let you do it anyway; tokens are tokens are profit.

      But local brew will even do those things anyway.

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        Unfortunately I don’t think we can put this genie back in the bottle. These billionaires can afford to out AI us. Running local is great for not giving them money, but you’ll never have even nearly the most capable models.

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      9 hours ago

      Why would they want to rexouoe their losses? They haven’t yet.

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    12 hours ago

    This is TERRIBLE! RICH PEOPLE owned those Assests being Stolen! WHY couldn’t it JUST be POOR People being Stolen from?

    -The US Government!

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    10 hours ago

    Hasn’t there already been precedent that copyright doesn’t cover AI generated works? So how to these companies plan on legally selling their games, when it’s actually legal to just copy and share them?

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      7 hours ago

      Technically speaking, a cleanroom reverse-engineered program isn’t illegal (this is how IBM PC clones were allowed to exist), at least in the US.

      On the other hand, since AI cannot hold a copyright, the prompters cannot sue if, say, Sony or Microsoft just take their code and sell it.

      Most decompiled games need a copy of the original game for assets (graphics, textures, etc) since those wouldn’t be recreated via AI, and shipping with them would be copyright infringement.

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        Requirement for “cleanroom” development" are very strict. You’d have to disregard anyone who could have had just the tiniest plausible chance of having seen the tiniest part of the code.

        Any LLM usage would invalidate the cleanroom premise.

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        The critical thing in the IBM BIOS case is that the ABI surface was deemed too trivial to be worthy of copyright protection, and the implementation was credibly not cloned.

        When you get to the point of the interface presented to human, I wager there would be consensus that is substantiave enough content there. Also an actual decompile would not be “clean room”.

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      Purely generated AI content can’t be copyrighted.

      However, mix some human effort in, the combined work can be copyrighted. In theory if you can prove a specific thing is purely AI output, it is fair game. Good luck doing so with proof.

      The cases cited in this argument all had the would be rights holder stating flat out it was untouched by human hands. Once they did anything to it, the result would be “transformative” and the AI ness won’t count.

      Also in this case, the games being decompiled were pre LLM. An LLM clone doesn’t spare the clone of legal issues. A company tried this argument that the knock off legal papers were AI and this fair game and they lost. When Getty sued, the counter argument was that output could be infringing, but it would be the responsibility of the operator.

      Conveniently for the rich people, they have rights to make knockoff machines by ingesting everything without permission, but copyright of course still counts for their purposes.

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      I’d imagine that the context window you’d need to perform such a feat would be so large that it would be impossible, even with all the compute we are currently throwing at AI models. It would at best be financially impractical.