Progressive California Rep. Ro Khanna argued against centrist Democratic Sen. Brian Schatz's statement that Democrats should not try to pass ambitious bills that President Donald Trump wouldn't sign if they win the midterms.
No one has to let them do anything. They have all the power. They’re going to do it regardless of whether Dems “let them” or not. Dems need to focus their energy somewhere that it can actually make a difference.
I’m not sure I understand who you’re talking about.
The original premise was that if the Dems win the House and Senate in the midterms, and then fail to propose legislation because Trump would veto it that they would then be rolling over and pissing themselves like whipped puppies in 2027.
You then asked why it would mean they would be rolling over and pissing themselves like whipped puppies in that scenario.
I explained that it would be because they were letting the Republicans set the agenda.
Then in your most recent reply, it appears to me that you’re saying the Republicans would have all the power.
Is that what you’re saying? Because that doesn’t make sense to me. If the Dems win the House and Senate, how do the Republicans have all the power?
Exactly. The only option he has is the veto. That’s no reason to let him decide the agenda.
Make him veto popular initiatives. Make him prove over and over that he hates the American people. Force the Republicans in Congress to either side with the people to override the veto or admit that they care more about President Pedo than their own constituents.
Then use the vetos and votes to beat them in the next election.
However, that probably won’t happen. The Dems will roll over and piss themselves like whipped puppies. Because otherwise it would require that establishment Dems turn on the people they work for (billionaires and Israel) in order to support the people who voted for them.
If you do not have the power to do anything, you cannot “let” anyone do it. Just as I can’t “let” you drive too fast in your car, or stab a random person on the street.
Make him veto popular initiatives.
…why?
Make him prove over and over that he hates the American people.
He already has. There’s nothing he could possibly do to make that more clear. Sure as shit not a veto .
Then use the vetos and votes to beat them in the next election.
That’s completely unnecessary. Anyone who doesn’t know where they stand on these basic foundational issues sure as shit won’t know if they veto them.
You’ve never played chess, and it shows. You don’t understand tempo.
If you’re not putting your opponent on the defensive, your opponent is going to put you on the defensive.
By passing a progressive agenda in Congress, they force his hand. He vetos everything, because that’s what he does, and it shows his ass to swing-voters.
If Dems do nothing with a congressional majority because “it would just get vetoed,” then they’re letting him force their hands. They’d do nothing all session, which would show their ass to swing-voters.
If you don’t understand how that matters, then you don’t understand politics. Or you’re just a troll.
Either way, you’re fighting a losing battle here so just stop.
No one has to let them do anything. They have all the power. They’re going to do it regardless of whether Dems “let them” or not. Dems need to focus their energy somewhere that it can actually make a difference.
E: for clarity.
I’m not sure I understand who you’re talking about.
The original premise was that if the Dems win the House and Senate in the midterms, and then fail to propose legislation because Trump would veto it that they would then be rolling over and pissing themselves like whipped puppies in 2027.
You then asked why it would mean they would be rolling over and pissing themselves like whipped puppies in that scenario.
I explained that it would be because they were letting the Republicans set the agenda.
Then in your most recent reply, it appears to me that you’re saying the Republicans would have all the power.
Is that what you’re saying? Because that doesn’t make sense to me. If the Dems win the House and Senate, how do the Republicans have all the power?
Because of the aforementioned veto?
Exactly. The only option he has is the veto. That’s no reason to let him decide the agenda.
Make him veto popular initiatives. Make him prove over and over that he hates the American people. Force the Republicans in Congress to either side with the people to override the veto or admit that they care more about President Pedo than their own constituents.
Then use the vetos and votes to beat them in the next election.
However, that probably won’t happen. The Dems will roll over and piss themselves like whipped puppies. Because otherwise it would require that establishment Dems turn on the people they work for (billionaires and Israel) in order to support the people who voted for them.
If you do not have the power to do anything, you cannot “let” anyone do it. Just as I can’t “let” you drive too fast in your car, or stab a random person on the street.
…why?
He already has. There’s nothing he could possibly do to make that more clear. Sure as shit not a veto .
That’s completely unnecessary. Anyone who doesn’t know where they stand on these basic foundational issues sure as shit won’t know if they veto them.
You’ve never played chess, and it shows. You don’t understand tempo.
If you’re not putting your opponent on the defensive, your opponent is going to put you on the defensive.
By passing a progressive agenda in Congress, they force his hand. He vetos everything, because that’s what he does, and it shows his ass to swing-voters.
If Dems do nothing with a congressional majority because “it would just get vetoed,” then they’re letting him force their hands. They’d do nothing all session, which would show their ass to swing-voters.
If you don’t understand how that matters, then you don’t understand politics. Or you’re just a troll.
Either way, you’re fighting a losing battle here so just stop.