• Pratai@piefed.caBanned from community
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      Yeah, because an anti-trans ad is so much worse than anti-trans laws, anti-women laws, anti-non-white laws, child rape, and a complete and total fleecing of the entire country.

      Remember this whenever a psyop propaganda spewing chode tries to reduce the one party not trying to lead us into fascism down to a singe issue in order to inspire you to chose fascism by staying home.

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        You mean anti-trans laws like these shitty centrists voted for to get passed?

        https://www.them.us/story/eight-democrats-house-dont-say-trans-bill

        or

        https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5085485-cuellar-gonzalez-transgender-athletes-bill/

        or

        https://www.witn.com/2025/12/18/rep-davis-among-3-democrats-who-vote-pass-bill-criminalizing-gender-affirming-care-minors/

        With shitty centrists that run anti-trans ads and then vote in anti-lgbtq laws, who needs Republicans.

        You can argue until you’re blue in the face that they’re the best Democrats can do in a Red state, and I’ll even give you an inch on that one, but that’s still not an excuse for a shitty person with such pathetic morals that they can’t stand up for human rights and Democrats, including Talarico who I think is still a decent candidate despite his own massive betrayal of the trans community, should and need to do much better.

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        I understand the impulse/contention that this advertisement is a (perceived) capitulation to voters, which “starts and ends in voting booths” thus making it a “small price to pay” especially given american lawmakers’ propensity towards ignoring voters altogether in favor of passing laws for donors and benefactors.

        However, this is an L take.

        People’s opinions and perceptions are not 100% innate to their character. No one is perfectly resistant to pop culture or propaganda. Some democrats with shaky or quiet transphobia will feel emboldened by ads like this.

        Also, adverts like this don’t just attempt normalize a stance with mixed success. They signal intent.

        This isn’t just the South Carolina democratic candidate. This is a major organization that democrats work with to win elections and pass laws.

        Please try to step back and get a bigger picture view and look at the situation a little more critically.

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            The gloves being off and the time for ass kissing being over should push you further against ads like this.

            My rights are not bullshit. The rights of millions of other people are not bullshit.

            I shouldn’t have to live in fear out of convenience for others. I shouldn’t be a fucking political pawn. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of “allies” like you.

            Either stand up for everyone, or get the fuck out of the party that does/should. Go be a republican if you think that way.

            I’m also an army veteran (I joined when Obama was president and left the military before he left office). I also have a mother and a father and friends who love me. I’m not some far away inconvenience. My life is real. Just like it is for all trans people.

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              Okay then. Stay home and surrender your vote. It’s your choice. I’m not going to argue it. You’ve made up your mind. Go ahead and let others vote for you.

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                I’m not your collateral damage. Your attitude in this fight is not the only valid one or the “most true one”.

                That is their mindset. Thats some Sith Lord bullshit.

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        You’re so beyond hope.

        You are not an ally. Today it’s an ad, tomorrow it’s a law, and you’ll defend it as “not as bad” until you’re so far right you’re pushing for imprisonment because it’s not as bad as execution.

        Democrats pull left leaning people right, that’s their primary function.

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            This is the response of a nihilistic bullshitter and/or a professional agitator.

            Just let us know whenever you take your own position seriously enough to defend it lol

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          Ok. So what is your suggestion for defeating republicans and trying to take back our democracy as quickly as necessary to prevent us from losing it forever?

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            We already lost it forever thanks to Biden and Merrick Garland.

            Watch this. If the election is held and Dems win. Who will make Trump leave office when he says, “No”.?

            Will Todd blanche and the DOJ that’s been gutted remove him? Will Kash Patel and the FBI that’s been gutted remove him? Will Tom Homan and the secret police force better equipped than the Marines (that the Democrats support with 85% funding) remove him? Will Pete Hegseth and the military thats been gutted remove him? Will our intelligence agencies who are linked to Mossad remove him?

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              Ok, so you’ve given up. Sit down and shut up, please, so the rest of us can try saving our democracy.

              We don’t need fatalist doomers like you telling us there’s no hope, because there’s always hope if people are willing to stand up. You obviously aren’t, so sit down and shut up.

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            Get your ass in there and vote in every god damn primary for the progressive, stop donating and volunteering for any centrist, stop donating to any Democratic group that supports centrist and instead donate to progressive only-groups, donate and volunteer for the progressive running in the Democratic primary, be better than Tom Morello and if you’re in a nice safe, Democratic stronghold, organize and do a small but significant mass protest vote.

            Just spit balling ideas that I’ve been doing for a decade and a half, minus the last one, now that you can actually do to actually defeat republicans with people who will actually push back against them.

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                Well, we are trying to organize around independent candidates that actually support our values, while you scream at us “DO YOU WANT TRUMP? THAT’S HOW YOU GET TRUMP” and insist on voting for Democrats, even when their candidate is not even viable.

                You are supporting genocides, militarized police, the US jail system, US imperialism, etc, while calling yourself an ally and telling us to sacrifice our values and our bodies to protect you from Trump.

                You throw us under the bus and blame us for not supporting your flavor of evil.

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                  Hey guess what? I’m doing that, too. But when the election comes and I have a choice between more or less evil I will still go for damage control.

                  Don’t let perfect get in the way of good. Purists of all strains are fucking cancer.

                  You are supporting genocides, militarized police, the US jail system, US imperialism, etc, while calling yourself an ally and telling us to sacrifice our values and our bodies to protect you from Trump.

                  Fuck you I’m not and fuck you for thr accusation.

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                  I’m trans. I’ve been thrown under the bus. All those things you say and that we fight for, are VERY important. And you can do all of them with a democrat in charge easier than you can do them with a magat in charge.

                  By the time the fascism gets to “trans levels” for everyone, which is the only perceived positive from accelerating fascism, it will be too late to organize for progressives. It will be time to die in the streets. And I know we are now, I live it too, but today will look like the happiest day imaginable if magats win Congress and the Senate again.

                  By the time the majority are motivated by fascism, it is too late.

                  Do you think, in the “ashes of revolution” or more likely a foreign country invading, after almost all trans people are already dead from the camps so we make up 0.0001% of the population, do you think at that time there will be a push for trans rights at the top of the agenda?

                  Do you think people who watched their kids starve, who are almost dead themselves, sitting in the rubble of their neighborhood, after we were killed first, a distant memory occluded by so many deaths of loved ones, will they say “trans rights are human rights”?

                  In the rubble of liberated Germany, they threw us BACK INTO the camps to die.

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              Yeah. And I’m the one that’s beyond hope…. LMAO!