• realitista@lemmus.org
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    3 days ago

    Honestly if they could just undo the damage Trump has done, I would call it a win. Part of how we got here in the first place was never fixing the illegal wars, gulags, and other abuses of power under bush and trump. If you don’t fix them, they just keep building on each other, and any other initiative you succeed in building will quickly be destroyed by an ever more powerful fascist state.

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      3 days ago

      Honestly if they could just undo the damage Trump has done, I would call it a win.

      If that’s all they did it would be losing, hard. It would leave everything open to happen again, or likely much worse. Heads need to roll.

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        3 days ago

        Well yes by undoing it I mean undoing it so it doesn’t happen again. Which means heads rolling.

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      reversing Republican Medicaid cuts,

      So just for example, on that, if that’s all they try to do then they’ve failed. It’s not enough anymore to simply reverse it, they need to actually fix it by implementing actual universal coverage via Medicare for all, or NHS, or a German SHI. They need to actually stand for something other than the old bullshit status quo to win.

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        I truly think a system like the German model has a chance to succeed in the US without causing so many knock-on effects that there’s immediate backlash. I know Medicare For All is the catchier phrase but I’m surprised so few even mention Germany as a possible US model.

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        3 days ago

        oh really so you’re not going to vote dem?

        me thinks you are just as much the problem here

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          2 days ago

          DINOs are the problem. If we haven’t hit rock bottom enough to see that then all is lost.

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      3 days ago

      we see ourselves in the mirror, restoring the status quo means billionaires stay in charge, bombings continue, innocents die

      even when we sweep the house it’s not enough:

      I want to see us get medicare for all, trump and his cronies in guantanamo, the supreme court reformed, gerry mandering removed, age limits, term limits, data center moratoriums, an end to war, no more super pacs, no more citizens united, billionaire wealth tax, house and senate reform, ranked choice voting

      and they end the filibuster to do it

      then if we wanna quit “capitalism” we continue (we should end whatever this is)

      all that said, vote. vote. vote.

      • realitista@lemmus.org
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        3 days ago

        I want this too, trust me. But if we get medicare for all and then lose democracy, will it really be a win? The fascists will just take it away again after long enough in power.

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          oh i’m voting blue on my end for sure, we can’t afford to not

          but we need to hold these fuckers feet to the fire when the inevitably don’t do shit

          id still rather democrats in office over trumplicans any day