Yes but this is a simple migration away. The system itself and its adoption are far bigger barriers.
AWS
Also, when Wero started, Trump hadn’t started to set the world on fire yet, so the geopolitical angle was far less pronounced. Until Jan 2025, hosting an EU service on AWS was not controversial.
Centralized problems are generally easier to solve than distributed problems. Depending on their architecture moving to an EU cloud provider could range from tricky but manageable to very painful , but it’s a centralized IT problem that can be attacked and solved. Getting every retail vendor to support Wero is much harder, and is being solved apparently.
Valid point.
But technically an easier transition to own solutions at some point.
Wero has its roots before the overall critical industry ‘digital independence’ got enough attention (in the recent year), it was more about solving a specific duopoly (that a lot of banks & startups started solving anyway, just way more fragmented).
I don’t know much about the payment processors but I would assume Visa and MasterCard run on their own hardware? Or are they also tied to a cloud provider these days?
While true, the AWS infrastructure in Europe is somewhat sovereign from the parent company and under stricter regulation and oversight. Granted, it’s not a perfect solution but a good one for the moment.
The article omits that Wero is running on top of AWS. So still the same problem, just slightly lower in the stack.
Yes but this is a simple migration away. The system itself and its adoption are far bigger barriers.
Also, when Wero started, Trump hadn’t started to set the world on fire yet, so the geopolitical angle was far less pronounced. Until Jan 2025, hosting an EU service on AWS was not controversial.
It’s easier to replace AWS with a European alternative, than Visa or Mastercard. So the problem is smaller.
True, and I also did not mean to let better be the enemy of good. Just that we’re not in the clear yet.
Centralized problems are generally easier to solve than distributed problems. Depending on their architecture moving to an EU cloud provider could range from tricky but manageable to very painful , but it’s a centralized IT problem that can be attacked and solved. Getting every retail vendor to support Wero is much harder, and is being solved apparently.
Valid point.
But technically an easier transition to own solutions at some point.
Wero has its roots before the overall critical industry ‘digital independence’ got enough attention (in the recent year), it was more about solving a specific duopoly (that a lot of banks & startups started solving anyway, just way more fragmented).
I don’t know much about the payment processors but I would assume Visa and MasterCard run on their own hardware? Or are they also tied to a cloud provider these days?
From a few IPs that I checked, all were served by ASN2559 which would belong to Visa directly. They seem to have a lot of services according to shodan
MasterCard is ASN26380 and has a smaller footprint on shodan, but still many hits
So both seem have their own data centers. Doesn’t mean, that they won’t use AWS/Azure/GCP/… if they see a benefit.
While true, the AWS infrastructure in Europe is somewhat sovereign from the parent company and under stricter regulation and oversight. Granted, it’s not a perfect solution but a good one for the moment.
https://aws.eu/european-sovereign-cloud/
That’s a lie, just marketing. See the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act