Just forestalling the inevitable and making it worse at the same time.
Recently renamed to super diesel.
America Diesel!
Artificial diesel didn’t have the same ring to it.
It’s not artificial; it’s just dyed red to show it wasn’t taxed.
woooossssshhhhh……
Welcome, comrades, to centrally-planned economy.
But that’s communism
I don’t know how this can possibly work in practice.
One, this may relieve the federal diesel tax by “allowing” red fuel but will not exempt state and local taxes that he has no authority to affect, meaning it may still be illegal at the state level to run red fuel.
Two, the red fuel dye used to identify untaxed/offroad fuel is aggressive and can be detected at extremely low concentrations. If dyed fuel has ever been in a tank it’s detectable for months if not years afterwards (depending on how much it gets refilled) and even then, sometimes they can swab the fuel cap for residue and detect it indefinitely. If a state trooper decides to have a tank dip done to inspect your fuel after this tax break stuff you are capital-F Fucked.
Hey, maga republicans aren’t known for “law and order” as much as they wanted the world to think… this much is very clear.
They don’t give a fuck, if daddy pedo said they could, they will.
Two, the red fuel dye used in untaxed/offroad is aggressive and can be detected at extremely low concentrations, if dyed fuel has ever been in a tank it’s detectable for months if not years afterwards (depending on how much it gets refilled).
In other words, it fucks up the ability to tax diesel even long after the crisis is (theoretically/optimistically on Trump’s part) over. Considering that they could have just suspended the tax on non-dyed diesel and directed refineries to stop putting the dye in temporarily, but didn’t, one wonders if that was the real goal.
Absolutely fucks up the tax system. It would be a disaster for commercial trucking and I am betting you will not see widespread use of the untaxed fuel even if “allowed” as no operator wants to get on the wrong side of DOT after this is said and done.
This of course does not apply to light duty trucks and diesel cars where rednecks run red fuel in them almost all the time.
Hanlon’s razor has been getting an exceptional workout these days. It could just be that Trump is monumentally stupid and didn’t think about this at all.
Trump is monumentally stupid, but that doesn’t mean his Wormtongue-esque advisors are. Trump probably didn’t know red-dyed diesel existed before this; he definitely didn’t come up with the idea to let truckers use it himself.
During his first term I would consider this to be a more likely explanation, but second-term Trump has been doing a pretty good job of purging anyone with actual competence. He wasn’t happy with how they kept telling him what to do last time around.
Whether he is too dumb to realize it or not, another important point is that he probably does not care about future problems.
Why would he, he’s never been held accountable for anything before.
We don’t tax fuel enough to maintain the roads as is. The states that are removing the gas tax going to see really terrible roads in the coming years because the funding mechanism went away. It also means we might have to shift to registration fees as the primary mechanism to fund roads, which we were already considering for electric cars but then we’re going down this road you might have to make it Universal to all vehicles, preferably increasing with vehicle weights
The states that are removing the gas tax going to see really terrible roads in the coming years because the funding mechanism went away.
Maybe, but more likely they’re just going to use more money from the general fund like they already do. Only 26% of the road infrastructure budget came from gas taxes to begin with. So yes, the funding would drop if they don’t make up the shortfall with other funds, but not as much as you think.
Donnie is getting desperate.
Desperate Donnie has a nice ring to it.
Best to not say his name at all I figure.
Per search, red-dye diesel is untaxed.
Also stated at least three times in the article you didn’t read – as early as the second paragraph of the main prose.
There is no text in the article, it’s just a headline. I can take a screen shot to prove it, but you’re just a nobody.
Your mom definitely doesn’t say no to my body.
My mom died multiple decades ago, which, if your statement was true, would make you a necrophiliac.
Hell yeah brotha
Here’s an archive of the article if you’re wanting to read it and having technical difficulties (or for anyone else who is; sorry, the Wayback Machine doesn’t capture the full article).
I was never going to assume you were lying about your experience if you claimed “there is no article”; it’d be such a batshit claim if you knew one existed.
This is what the CNBC link looks like in my browser backing up my “batshit claim”.
Since we’re now insulting each other, I want you to know that shortly I will block you, as Lemmy is a much better place when we’re not interacting with people who make us want to insult each other. Goodbye.
I hope you realize that you look like a complete dickhead in this exchange.
I was insulted first but I’m the dickhead? Wrong.
backing up my “batshit claim”.
I said “it’d be a batshit claim if” followed by something that I acknowledged wasn’t true – a hypothetical. As in it would’ve been batshit to knowingly lie about that. I understood why you couldn’t read the article, but why you couldn’t understand this basic if/then statement is beyond me.
I’m not sure if you’re using a broken app or something but there is definitely text there. Here are the first three paragraphs.
President Donald Trump has allowec the use of cheaper red-dyed diesel. typically reserved for farm operations, to be used more broadly in an attempt to bring down record-high fuel costs
Trump signed an executive order Monday evening stateside to temporarily allow truckers and farmers to use red-dved diesel - which is exempt from highway fuek taxes - and deferred related taxes on the fuel through the end of this year
The tax-free diesel is typically used by farm equipment, construction machinery, trucks and other off-road vehicles. It is therefore exempt from a 24.4-cent-per-gallon tax applied to dliesel fuel sold for highway transportation.
Here’s what CNBC looks like in my browser.
So he just approved a tax break? Wow, feels weird.
In the most roundabout way possible. Just remove the tax on undyed diesel, then.
Tax relief to soften the impact of high fuel costs is pretty normal government thing. Is why tax-free diesel exists in the first place. Trump’s mistake was causing the high gas prices.
It’s interesting to see Trump floundering on what he thinks will be popular among voters. Doing things that help Americans is an afterthought, he’s scrambling like a failing student for extra credit ahead of the Final.
He just doesn’t want anything that might slow down/stop/reverse his smash-and-grab being done on the United States. He’s giving himself and his family billions of dollars.
Also, he wants to stay out of prison.
Having Democrats run both houses of Congress could be a (mild) risk to him.
Yea, an additional issue here is that those taxes were used for things. Removing them does save people money, but the increased price ends up costing us both at the pump and also in lost tax revenue.
But that’s exactly how businesses work. Short term gains at the price of long term anything.
And Mango Mussolini promised to run the government like a business.
Is why tax-free diesel exists in the first place.
Tax free diesel exists because the dyed diesel is not being used on public roads. Fuel taxes aren’t random government money grabs, they directly fund roads, bridges, and other highway infrastructure.
Fuel taxes aren’t random government money grabs, they directly fund roads, bridges, and other highway infrastructure.
That’s the budget the revenue from them goes into, but it’s only a drop in the bucket compared to the total cost of that infrastructure. The road system is massively subsidized from sources other than driver user fees.
Sure. My point was refuting the other user’s claim that “tax free diesel only exists to be a tax relief mechanism”.
Off road diesel is still taxed, you’re just not paying the FHWA excise tax if you’re not using it on highways.
Louisiana declared a state of emergency recently to allow the same thing lol
More correctly that’s well yes but actually yes. The gas tax money goes to roads. The fact extra money is needed does not negate the fact gas tax money goes to roads. Without gas tax, even more general funding is needed.
Yeah, robbing peter to pay paul. These clowns don’t give a fuck though.
This is tax free agricultural diesel. If regular diesel is out trucks can purchase this tax free. He basically stopped the DoT from checking tanks for tax free gas.
Tax free fuel from the fool.
Won’t that only cause the price of AG diesel to raise?
Some places use the same diesel and just inject red die at the nozzle. Or if they are filling bigger tanks add the die then.
Dye
Threats of violence will get you banned, you know.
;-)
Instructions unclear, put a D20 in the fuel tank.
Sure, but it’s not like they have much need for diesel right now. The crops have all finished growing, there’s just that “harvest” thing they need to do before winter comes and everything stops. So they’re like 90% done already, right?
if that is true, then the refineries already know this, have reduced the amount of red dye diesel they’ve recently produced based on seasonal demand, which would mean that there’s not that much red dye diesel available, which makes this whole exercise more or less pointless.
Depends on what kind of farming you’re doing. Ranchers need fuel year round. Citrus fruits harvest in the winter, greens, broccoli, cauliflower, brussel, cabbages, root vegetables, and alliums are winter harvest crops in some regions, and potatoes and sweet potatoes are harvested in late-autumn.
This is a Let Them Eat Cake moment.
