Name one thing that can’t land you in prison in the US. I’ll wait.
Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.
With the caveat that, if you don’t achieve those profits, it will land you in jail.
For profit slave labor prisons are very lucrative I hear
pedophilia (if you are rich)
You don’t even need that first part. Being rich makes it 10x harder for you to be prosecuted.
Being white
If the phone’s security prevents them from accessing information, then they have no information. How can they prove there was any information on it to begin with?
They just accuse you of withholding evidence. Yay for freedom of speech.
@SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml the courts already decided that it was okay to jail people for literal years for not providing a password: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rawls
and there are more:
- United States v. Fricosu
- United States v. Doe (2012)
- United States v. Kirschner
That was a court order though. If there is no court order and no warrant, they shouldn’t be snooping through anything.
the courts have decided that all ports of entry – including airports – are constitution free zones; meaning that the constitution does not apply there.
as a result most americans – 2/3rds of them – live in places where the constitution does not apply to them.
Yeah, this is bananas. Especially when Antifa is labeled as a terrorist group and they say all of us are Antifa
Supreme court has ruled that warrantless phone search at the border is bogus, but theyre too shitpantsed to stick with it
this is what peak democracy™ looks like, dont be fooled
What is the charge, eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.
This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.
You can have a business card with a "phone"number on it. (Your pin can be any part of that number it is only you who needs to know where to start reading the code). You don’t need to have a sus number only piece of paper. :)
The point is that the cops would find and enter the pin.
It’s the wipe pin.
They wiped it, not you.
Seems like what’s needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn’t have any info you don’t want others to see, without actually deleting anything.
Or loads a dummy profile and deletes other profiles without giving away what is happening.
Dont think that would be as secure. Once a phone has been unlocked after reboot, even if it has been locked again, the operating system and ram can be accessed quite easily with the correct tools and border controls have those tools.
Even a Graphene phone is only properly secure before first unlock after reboot. So i would not personally rely on allowing acess to any profile. I would assume its possible, (probably trivial) to gain complete access from there.
Any duress pin use should be covered under a person’s right to avoid self incrimination.
If the phone is owned by your employer and they are the investigation target, then you might be on dodgy ground.
Nothing is needed. Erase your shit before you travel in or out of the US.
I had this feature on a Xiaomi phone that i had a few years ago. I could even set up the fingerprint reader to open a different profile depending on which finger i used.
Sounds awesome.
Alternately, a user profile that isn’t displayed anywhere, but accessible only through a specific PIN, maybe. Not sure how you’d explain the storage space either option used, however.
It should work like truecrypt used to where there’s no sign some of the encrypted blob is not actually visible in the fake os.
I think the point is that if you load an empty profile (no photos, no videos, no apps, etc) but your phone storage is nearly full, it could throw up a red flag.
That’s why the fake profile would not show that the storage is full. Unless they try to load lots of data onto the fake profile it would not be obvious.
Funny how the lemmy liberals never believe that the US is the authoritarian country lol
Really? I feel like I’m constantly seeing complaints about the US’s growing authoritarianism.
I mean from the cadre of Anti-russia, Anti-china accounts who try and tell me I am a conspiracy theorist for thinking that the CIA is behind “all world events” despite talking about a specific event where the CIA actually overthrew the country I am from.
They didnt grow to it. Nobody just gave a shit before, because it wasnt against all skin colors.
It’s not even about skin color, not really. It’s about poverty and people not having a chance to get out of it. I would also commit crimes if I felt my life had no future and im white.
As a consequence, black people commit crimes and white cops become racist because they see that. But its not really about skin color if you look at the full picture.
I think this is misguided and a bit too optimistic. Racist cops don’t become racist because of their lived experiences, they’re already racist when they take the job.
Oh yeah racism in the US is not about skin color, brilliant take.
It’s about poverty, yeah. White people would act the same as black people if they lived in poverty. In fact, you see that happening in America too.
You have to give someone a chance in life or you end up with desperate people. I never understood the idea that poor people should just say no to crime when they have absolutely nothing to live for otherwise. That’s crazy.
If you don’t think racism is real and not at all based on race you are a literal fucking idiot. Try reading a fucking book whitey. Fanon, George Jackson, Malcom X. Take you pick, not sure you’ll have the comprehension to understand.
lemmy liberals are a specific group of people and not everyone.
In a thread where people are saying US is an authoritarian country: “wow they never say this”
This thread isn’t the lemmy liberals? I’m not talking about the people on lemmy.ml privacy and this thread? Maybe if this comm was on shitjustfash
This is yesterday’s news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don’t understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn’t bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn’t to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren’t hostile and inhumane.
How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I’m allowed to delete my files, aren’t I?
Be careful not to swallow your spit. They may think you’re swallowing a bomb and shoot you on the spot.
I’m no lawyer, but I think that’s called circumstantial(ly improbable). Try convincing a jury of that. 🥲
This sounds a lot like proving my innocence instead of them having to prove guilt.
They aren’t but it is the same as if you have been accused of murdering some one and you burn the car you are accused of moving the body to the river in.Edit: I am not saying i think its how i should work but its the logic behind itThey didn’t accuse him of anything, and let him go afterwards. This was an illegal search attempt.
Except that this person wasn’t accused or even suspected of a crime.
If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.
No it wipes the data from the phone
GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested
