Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion.
I don’t think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask?
Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are.
I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don’t believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable.
So… Just tell them that it’s illegal for them to drive? Kind of like how we tell them that it’s illegal to drink and drive but they did that anyway? The point of the lock is that it’s for people who are going to ignore the law anyway. Not having a license does not stop somebody from operating a motor vehicle.
You make a good point. I still don’t have an ounce of patience for alcoholics who drive, but I do agree that it creates a mental trap of “you have a perfectly good car right here if you just stop drinking for 24 hours”
Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries.
So is a proper driver’s ed before giving even a learner’s permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers
I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That’s why the bar has to be so low to get a license.
Of course better transit is a better solution, but at least while America is waiting for that, ride-hailing services can help fill a gap. Expensive? I have little sympathy for people who drove drunk on that count.
Fuck the lock, ban them from driving. Inexcusable.
Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion.
Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It’s inherent to the format
I don’t think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask?
Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are.
I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don’t believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable.
So… Just tell them that it’s illegal for them to drive? Kind of like how we tell them that it’s illegal to drink and drive but they did that anyway? The point of the lock is that it’s for people who are going to ignore the law anyway. Not having a license does not stop somebody from operating a motor vehicle.
You make a good point. I still don’t have an ounce of patience for alcoholics who drive, but I do agree that it creates a mental trap of “you have a perfectly good car right here if you just stop drinking for 24 hours”
Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries.
So is a proper driver’s ed before giving even a learner’s permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers
I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That’s why the bar has to be so low to get a license.
I’m sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s
It isn’t. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows.
Perfect solution. Really needs public transit or walkable cities to work so win-win.
Of course better transit is a better solution, but at least while America is waiting for that, ride-hailing services can help fill a gap. Expensive? I have little sympathy for people who drove drunk on that count.