Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

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    The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.

    iOS doesn’t even have a universal back button, every app has their own way of implementing it.

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      If your app uses NavigationView, like 80% of apps, you get a back button and swipe gesture for free.

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      It has swipe to the right from the side of the screen. That works in very application I’ve tried.

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        It’s not universal. It has become more common, but there is no OS-level enforcement

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      What is it with Android users’ obsession with the back button? Who actually cares? Why would I want some button that goes back to the wrong app for some reason?

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        Who actually cares?

        Every people that complains, for one. And the “back” feature, with apps that follows the guidelines, is quite useful and consistent.

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          Apple has a universal app switcher gesture that is harder to accidentally invoke. It used to use the home button before for that when it was on the front of the device.

          The back button on Android just feels like Chromebook bullshit to me.

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            Apple has a universal app switcher gesture that is harder to accidentally invoke.

            Try teaching your 90-year-old mother to use that fucking gesture. Lol “Apple is so intuitive”.

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              I have a literal 85 year old father in law with mild dementia who uses his iPhone and iPad just fine. It literally is intuitive.

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            18 hours ago

            The back button is just completely unnecessary. Imagine not knowing how to get back to something because the UI is atrocious so you revert to relying on a hardware key. 😷

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              Android - provides a back button that has the same look, location and functionality system wide so that users don’t how to figure out how each individual application decide to implement (or not) go back functionality

              Cousin Mose - the UI is attrocious.

              Thanks for letting us know that no one should listen to your opinions on UI / UX ever lol

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        Tell me you haven’t used a back button without telling me.

        To TLDR you pretend the back button on android is the back button on your mouse, because it is. Does it seem useful yet?

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          Back button on a mouse? I use a Trackpad. If I wanted to spend all day slowly navigating the UI click by click I might go back to a mouse.

          And by the way, the reason I know it takes you back to an entirely different app than the one you’re using is because I’ve used it before. 😒

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            It takes you back to the previous view in the stack. Unless the current app was launched from a different app, there will be no other app in the view stack to go back to.

            TL;DR: You’re full of shit, and anyone familiar with how Android handles view state under the hood knows it.