Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

  • ivypt200@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    5·
    37 minutes ago

    I remember when 16 GB was for high work-load workstation tasks, it was not that long ago. Now it keeps getting used up by one single instance of firefox when it is open for too long. Screw javascript bullshit, i just want to use lynx and netsurf already.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
    2·
    1 hour ago

    Who will be the next shining light to emerge now that Microsoft has become extremely entrenched?

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
    20·
    13 hours ago

    1. Not really surprising considering Windows seems to be increasingly swapping their native shell components for Web Views (you can tell because sometimes they fail to load (: )

    2. You know it’s bad when Brendan fucking Eich is the reasonable one

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    34·
    18 hours ago

    Sure, I love it when a 50KB app takes 50MB because some cunt designer only knows HTML.

    • khánh@lemmy.zipEnglish
      12·
      12 hours ago

      Basically, you know how Spotify allows you to use the version you access on the web as if it’s an app (all the features are there)? That’s called a Progressive Web App (PWA). Basically, Electron apps open up their own browser to run a PWA. Why is this bad? 2 Chrome tabs already take up a lot of memory. Now imagine 3.

  • this@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    9·
    18 hours ago

    I would actually be for keyboards having a dedicated AI key, because then I would always have a key to remap to my voice PTT without loosing anything useful.

    • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      14·
      20 hours ago

      At least for Enterprise where the real money is, “???” seems to be https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/windows-365-enterprise

      This isn’t some grand plan 5d chess. The people running these companies are dumb as hell and lucky. They get convinced from one silicon valley thought leader’s blog post that ai and electron are the future and then direct the entire company in that direction thinking they’re a great leader who will be remembered for pushing the company in a novel direction at just the right time. They attend a talk by a different thought leader who talks about a future of ai cloud computers that anyone can access from anywhere with more computational power than could ever fit into the shitty laptop they’re accessing it from, then they go to the board meeting the next day with their bright new idea to do cloud personal desktops.

      These companies are entirely responding to (nonsensical) market forces and the whims of high ranking individuals within their ranks. It’s painful and ridiculous.

      • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        20 hours ago

        To be clear, there are some benefits to provisioning enterprise devices in a tightly controlled cloud environment, but we’ve all seen ideas with “some benefits” get shot down by managers and CEOs who “don’t get why anyone would want that” so I’m not keen on giving Microsoft too much credit.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        22 minutes ago

        I’m so glad I bought my laptop when I did recently, with plenty of RAM and storage. Just in time before that stuff becomes impossible to find or impossibly unaffordable.

        This generation of hardware will probably be the plateau. The decline and fall is just around the bend. Maybe another generation of CPUs before those go for bust, too. They can rent out GPUs, RAM, and storage, but as far as I’m aware the CPU needs to be local on the device. At least, a CPU needs to be on the device…

        I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this trend is occuring just as NPUs are starting to hit the market. Those chips are too powerful to let the plebeians own and use without restriction, in the corpo’s view.

        Whether a better system replaces this one after it falls, or we enter an era where consumer hardware is a thing of the past, remains to be seen. Maybe when the AI bubble bursts, tech companies will have to liquidate their data centers and secondhand servers will become cheap. That would do wonders for the fediverse and the decentralized web…

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        24 hours ago

        Posting scammy Amazon links feels like cheating when having these discussions, but I kinda get where they’re coming from. The fact that people can try to sell a laptop with only 64gb disk is absolutely mental to me, because that’s not even enough to let the BASE OS run normally and update reliably. And that’s before you start doing anything on it.

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    19 hours ago

    this solidifies two of my predictions from 15-20 years ago.

    1. Microsoft is moving to an “internet required” OS, likely meaning cloud based OS
    2. all apps will become web apps

    1000003241

    my final prediction from then was subscription based access to your operating system, apps, and data. you own nothing. your data is constantly consumed and used to train their products. you will never be able to extract your data and will be forever locked-in to their product. this also means that you will have to pay extra for app use. need to use Photoshop? that’s an extra fee. need to use 3D rendering software? thats the ultra package with GPU fees per hour.

    most of this is actually happening under the covers, but nothing is locking us in.

    I would say we have about 5-7 years before the above happens and there’s no way back.