My Lords, we know that the 18 to 25 year-olds have many of the same complex problems as the under-18s and, as the Minister has said, they need similar holistic wraparound care, although that is not necessarily yet in place. However, Dr Levy’s review had a narrower remit than mine, focused on quality improvement rather than the model of care, so as a next step would the Minister agree to ask departmental and NHSE colleagues to convene a group, which should include independent experts, representatives of professional groups and representatives of the new children’s and young people’s services as well as service users, to consider how we best understand and, importantly, improve clinical outcomes for this group of young adults?


Reconsidering gatekeeping HRT to 16 instead of 18 is not the noble personal growth you think it is, nor is it what the point of this discussion was about and as for puberty blockers, yes there is growing evidence that the longer puberty is delayed the more there can be permanent negative consequences. It was yet another example of you refusing to actually listen to anyone critical of you and instead debate your way around the fact that restricting gender affirming care until after someone has gone through puberty at all is bad. Puberty does not start at a specific age and almost always well before 16.
The thread I mentioned about immigrants is relevant because it is another example of you being a reactionary debate pervert that wastes people’s time with sophistry and pedantry. If you had given any impression that you were actually listening to the trans people in this thread and not just being a wanker I would not have been hostile to you. But the fact I have seen you be this way before didn’t give me much hope.
What good is trying to get out of your echo chamber if you carry it with you like blinders on a horse. I don’t care if I hurt your feelings for calling out your fascist bullshit.