No not eventually, 2026.

EV’s are not in early adopter pricing at all. That’s just wrong. In the largest car market in the world they make up over 50% of all car sales. That’s not early adopter pricing.

Your common just reads like America is the only country in the world. America lives in the past what is true there is the past in other countries.

No, it seems you are proud of being ignorant of things.

This sodium ion batteries are going to be in cars too.

Luckily there is a lot less of them.

Also don’t these meet China’s new super strict battery safety standards?

This takes a real hit out of the new sodium batteries that CATL are bringing online right now.

So cool that we have two batteries that basically fit all the needed requirements for most applications. Cheap, safe, made from abundant materials, fast charging, long lasting, recyclable, work in the cold.

I get they are not the complete most energy dense batteries you would want to use in your phone or a super high end car where you can brag about having the longest range on the market.

But for renewables and grid storage, for cars for everyday driving or even exceptional once in a year road trips. The problem has been solved with two difference battery techs, it’s amazing.

Do you think LFP batteries are particularly fire prone?

Like more so than petrol?

I was wondering that myself.

Maybe it’s not digital tech so people don’t care? Maybe they think it’s an add.

I was just surprised/ happy it is a commercial reality.

This could be used in bulk in the manufacture of foods.

Great futuristic way to get egg whites without the killing and ecological harm.

Yes. So many of these threads read like Elon is stupid for trying to put humanoid robots in a factory from 1945 when he could just use a robotic arm or specialised machinery.

No, robotic arms and specialised machinery have replaced most labour, at least when compared to total output, already. If they didn’t do that they would have been shutdown a long time ago for lack of productivity and high costs. It’s not 1945 anymore, factories have spent 80 years trying to replace workers. Humanoid robots and AI might (eventually) be the final piece, not the major piece.

It seems to me we agree on everything except scale.

You don’t see humanoid robots being good enough and cheap enough to replace humans in any job. I do. I think it will start slow and progress overtime. Same how robotic arms started slow and then reaching more factories and more types of work.

The price people are saying these robots will cost is way less that what it costs to keep humans around.

The reason a humanoid robot will be used over a robotic arm is the same reason humans are used over a robotic arm that’s flexibility. The reason a humanoid robot will be used over a human is cost.

All the work done by humans right now.

Tends to be either stuff that is difficult to automate or work that is so short as to not be cost effective to buy a robot that only does that one job.

Humans aren’t good at doing most thing. But they are very very good at doing a lot of things.

Flexibility is the main thing that employs people in factories right now.

The majority of work that can be done by simple arm robots has been replaced with simple arm robots.

The humanoid robots are not going to fulfill that niche.