Midnight_Pearl [any, comrade/them]

sable is absolutely that

sable’s mobile client has UX parity, and spaces are presented pretty much exactly the way guilds are on discord in sable. y’all seem to be judging sable based on element’s reputation.

sable also does calling just fine, including on mobile. issues with fluffychat aren’t really relevant to me because i’m not recommending anyone use fluffychat, but frankly i don’t really see how it’s a bad thing that you can still communicate with some level on someone who might prefer some other client over not having the option at all.

there’s an actual mobile client for andoid and iOS and it works fine

rooms aren’t the analog to guilds, spaces are. spaces in sable are presented exactly like discord guilds, down to having manual categorization. did you try it for all of two seconds or something?

Maybe my grandma would mistake the two as being same, but certainly not me.

condescending af. again, nobody is conflating these things except for you. matrix’s analog to guilds is spaces, a feature you presumably didn’t try in the handful of minutes you could have tried sable in between my comment and your reply.

something something competing standards

there’s already Sable, which is feature complete as a discord replacement (discord-like guilds, voice/video, roles, etc.) and already has mature federation and E2EE features on account of it being a matrix client