Who actually offroads, anyway? And I mean actually off roads, not just driving down a dirt double track. Cause I regularly do that in my hatchback when I go camping.
I’ve been known to take sedans and wagons to places crossover drivers wouldn’t dare go pretty often, once or twice needed shovels and a friend with 4WD with lockers to pull me out.
If you don’t do off roading, you don’t need an SUV. If you don’t need an SUV, you should get a wagon or hatch like you already have.
If you live in a place where you can get snowed in, An SUV might help you out, but most crossovers are useless
A crossover, crossover SUV, or crossover utility vehicle (CUV) is a type of automobile with an increased ride height that is built on unibody chassis construction shared with passenger cars, as opposed to traditional sport utility vehicles (SUVs), which are built on a body-on-frame chassis construction similar to pickup trucks.[1]
So Lada Niva, Subaru Outback a d many others are still technically crossovers despite being very capable outside the pavement
Yeah so a hatchback on stilts. Both of those cars predate the industry term “crossover” by decades. Sometimes their height is enabled by being RWD, you can only lift a FWD car so high before the CV axle angle is too extreme.
I had to double-check, but the difference seems to be that traditionally SUV has a frame separate from the body construction, and crossover has the body form frame
But also, that definition is not always followed and people just call the stupidest size cars SUVs, and the less-stupid-but-still-stupid-size crossover
But for example, by that definition this lada niva is a crossover, not an SUV
That Lada is also a lot smaller than that camera angle makes it look. Way smaller than a Wrangler, probably even smaller than a Suzuki Sidekick. People called that a 3-door hatchback when it came out.
But it came out in Europe, long before the differentiation between body-on-frame vs unibody became a significant cost consideration in America through our domestic CAFE standards legislation.
Well crossover is an SUV, the most popular type of “stupid size car” in Europe at least
A crossover is a hatchback on stilts, they have zero off road ability.
Who actually offroads, anyway? And I mean actually off roads, not just driving down a dirt double track. Cause I regularly do that in my hatchback when I go camping.
I’ve been known to take sedans and wagons to places crossover drivers wouldn’t dare go pretty often, once or twice needed shovels and a friend with 4WD with lockers to pull me out.
If you don’t do off roading, you don’t need an SUV. If you don’t need an SUV, you should get a wagon or hatch like you already have.
If you live in a place where you can get snowed in, An SUV might help you out, but most crossovers are useless
So a Subaru
So Lada Niva, Subaru Outback a d many others are still technically crossovers despite being very capable outside the pavement
Yeah so a hatchback on stilts. Both of those cars predate the industry term “crossover” by decades. Sometimes their height is enabled by being RWD, you can only lift a FWD car so high before the CV axle angle is too extreme.
The funny bit about this is, my Subaru appears lowered in stock height, as my CV axles angle upwards to reach the wheels.
I always thought of them as a distinct category but maybe you’re right I don’t actually know.
I had to double-check, but the difference seems to be that traditionally SUV has a frame separate from the body construction, and crossover has the body form frame
But also, that definition is not always followed and people just call the stupidest size cars SUVs, and the less-stupid-but-still-stupid-size crossover
But for example, by that definition this lada niva is a crossover, not an SUV
That Lada is also a lot smaller than that camera angle makes it look. Way smaller than a Wrangler, probably even smaller than a Suzuki Sidekick. People called that a 3-door hatchback when it came out.
But it came out in Europe, long before the differentiation between body-on-frame vs unibody became a significant cost consideration in America through our domestic CAFE standards legislation.
Yeah I also looked it up and it doesn’t really seem like there’s a consensus on whether they count as SUVs. So I guess we’re both kinda right.
Either way fuck cars that are bigger than they need to be. That’s the ultimate point.
Fuck cars in general, but especially the stupid sized ones