• FishFace@piefed.social
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    7 hours ago

    No. What I expect is that if someone is coming at something from a wildly different perspective than the status quo - for example, “judges shouldn’t be allowed to prevent juries from hearing anything from a defendant,” then they be able to present literally any argument for that. I’ve had dozens of replies in this thread that either could not do that or could not articulate why that was not their perspective.

    Instead, they want to take it as read that the status quo is wrong. The status quo could very well be wrong but everyone who has come to that conclusion through actual reason rather than unexamined emotion can say why. Of the dozens of replies I think only one person demonstrated that ability.

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      5 hours ago

      Don’t confuse your capacity to understand with other people’s capacity to explain.

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        5 hours ago

        No individual really has any way to discern the two, from their own perspective. Except in retrospect, anyway. One can only guess, based on an assessment of one’s own general intelligence and linguistic facility. Which obviously is not something you, an internet stranger, have any access to.

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          4 hours ago

          It’s actually pretty simple, if you’re superior to everyone else you’re living in a delusion created to couch your own inferiority complex.

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            4 hours ago

            Luckily that’s not what I believe. But people in this particular thread have been incredibly disappointing

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                4 hours ago

                If I’m saying that people are disappointing then it means they’re less than my expectation and thus not confirming anything.

                In contrast, you confirm the expectations I have developed of you in particular with each successive reply.

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                  2 hours ago

                  Yes, it’s classic Donning-krueger.

                  Anything that would disprove your confirmation bias is simply filtered out.

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                    1 hour ago

                    Which is it - “Donning”-Kruger or confirmation bias? And why are you still talking to me if you think I’m incapable of changing my mind? Lmao.

                    You obviously haven’t observed enough of me to justify this judgement, and hence there’s no evidence I can offer you to convince you you’re wrong. So with you having long abandoned any attempt to argue your case and instead just browbeating me, I certainly don’t find any compelling reason to continue talking to you. Bye.

                    If we interact again, try to imagine yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn’t hold your opinions, and shape your argument to convince that person.