I said Democrats won’t act on it and then I provided two example of that. The first recently where 18 democrats joined Republicans to squash impeachment on Trump’s abuse of power via ICE.
And then I point out that even when they did impeach back in his first term, it still wasn’t united and you had centrists that voted against it.
Nowhere did I bring up the point that there wasn’t a conviction nor did I critique the fact they couldn’t get a conviction.
Now if they can’t vote to impeach on Trump’s abuse of power on ICE and couldn’t unify over Trumps first abuse of power with calling for foreign power to interfere in our free and fair elections, well that’s just kind sad and pathetic.
My point is that centrist suck, Democratic leadership under centrist suck, and the fact that you have Jared Golden who sucks and continues to bail Republicans out while Democratic leadership does fuck all shows again, Democratic leadership under centrists suck.
I’ll still bet a case of beer that if the Democrats had the stones to impeach over Trump’s threat of withholding hurricane relief, Fetterman would vote no and join the Republican party just like good ol’ centrist Jeff Drew did.
Yeah you’re making it clear you hate the democrats but I think they’re way better then the republicans and they’re the only party with a chance to beat them.
It doesn’t matter if the democrats are all united or not.
They impeached Trump twice and the one with Trump’s abuse of power via ICE doesn’t matter because they have a minority.
Even if they all voted along party lines it still wouldn’t have gone through.
I’m making it clear that I don’t like centrist, neo liberal failures in both leadership and morality.
I happen to think of does matter of Democrat are united in something as important as impeachment and very much so with ICE. We Americans, myself included, marched by the millions against ICE, resisted, and American citizens were murdered by Trump’s racist ICE for it and were protected from prosecution by Trump and when Democrats in power and Democratic leadership can’t even do the small thing and stand up against it with a simple impeachment vote, well that’s just sad and pathetic. Really shows a lack of character.
And again of you’re not going to fight against ICE, well snowballs chance in hell they’ll do it for this.
As for your argument that they’re the only party, well, we’ve clearly seen that that’s not exactly true now it’s it? But hey, you keep supporting mediocrity, that’s your right.
It matters in terms of communicating what is at stake. If the low information voters is told not even the democrats will impeach or not all democrats agree what he did was bad, then it must not be that bad.
The bill, introduced by Republican Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas, passed 215 to 201 Thursday with four Democrats voting in favor: Texas Reps. Henry Cuellar and Vicente Gonzalez, North Carolina Rep. Don Davis, and Washington Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez. It now goes to the Senate, where it is unclear if it has the support needed to pass.
Not even remotely the point or argument I was making but guess well see how many shitty moderate Democrats will vote no for impeachment again.
It’ll probably be Fetterman that switches parties this time.
What exactly was your point?
Sure, I’ll bite.
I said Democrats won’t act on it and then I provided two example of that. The first recently where 18 democrats joined Republicans to squash impeachment on Trump’s abuse of power via ICE.
And then I point out that even when they did impeach back in his first term, it still wasn’t united and you had centrists that voted against it.
Nowhere did I bring up the point that there wasn’t a conviction nor did I critique the fact they couldn’t get a conviction.
Now if they can’t vote to impeach on Trump’s abuse of power on ICE and couldn’t unify over Trumps first abuse of power with calling for foreign power to interfere in our free and fair elections, well that’s just kind sad and pathetic.
My point is that centrist suck, Democratic leadership under centrist suck, and the fact that you have Jared Golden who sucks and continues to bail Republicans out while Democratic leadership does fuck all shows again, Democratic leadership under centrists suck.
I’ll still bet a case of beer that if the Democrats had the stones to impeach over Trump’s threat of withholding hurricane relief, Fetterman would vote no and join the Republican party just like good ol’ centrist Jeff Drew did.
Yeah you’re making it clear you hate the democrats but I think they’re way better then the republicans and they’re the only party with a chance to beat them.
It doesn’t matter if the democrats are all united or not.
They impeached Trump twice and the one with Trump’s abuse of power via ICE doesn’t matter because they have a minority.
Even if they all voted along party lines it still wouldn’t have gone through.
I’m making it clear that I don’t like centrist, neo liberal failures in both leadership and morality.
I happen to think of does matter of Democrat are united in something as important as impeachment and very much so with ICE. We Americans, myself included, marched by the millions against ICE, resisted, and American citizens were murdered by Trump’s racist ICE for it and were protected from prosecution by Trump and when Democrats in power and Democratic leadership can’t even do the small thing and stand up against it with a simple impeachment vote, well that’s just sad and pathetic. Really shows a lack of character.
And again of you’re not going to fight against ICE, well snowballs chance in hell they’ll do it for this.
As for your argument that they’re the only party, well, we’ve clearly seen that that’s not exactly true now it’s it? But hey, you keep supporting mediocrity, that’s your right.
Clearly seen where exactly?
We Americans took away the Democrat’s majority and voted Trump in.
Never forget that fact because if you do you’ll make another stupid fucking protest vote and give Trump absolute power for another two years.
It matters in terms of communicating what is at stake. If the low information voters is told not even the democrats will impeach or not all democrats agree what he did was bad, then it must not be that bad.
The House voted 232-147 to table another resolution brought by Rep. Green regarding aggressive immigration enforcement.
Eighteen literally doesn’t matter and might politically help them in red/purple area to not vote for a impeachment that will ultimately lose.
That’s a lot of words saying “it doesn’t matter enough”, much like trans rights it seems.
Democrats overwhelmingly support trans rights.
And yet when it comes time, yet again the same shit centrists are there fucking it all up and Democratic leadership failing to lead on the issue.
https://www.advocate.com/politics/medicaid-gender-affirming-care-bill
And yet Talarico did the same math you cited to say it doesn’t matter enough
A side conversation, I’m going to guess is it the support of trans women in sports specifically?
This is such a weird one for me and one that does get me to think a lot and wrestle with it since it’s such a complex issue.