This comment is also speculation is it not? We have evidence that the court ordered people to be released. We don’t have evidence that the order was ignored. Even in the cases where ICE/DHS have taken time to release people they drag their feet, maybe submit an appeal, but they have not outright ignored the order.
Huge asterisk of course because they did ignore orders when sending people out of country. But in terms of holding them domestically the largest delay I’ve heard was a week I believe where they were trying to get out of the court order through appeals.
Feel free to post evidence though, keeping up with the crimes of this administration is a full time job
Are you seriously arguing that we’re supposed to give ICE and this administration the benefit of the doubt? Why on Earth would you imagine the onus is on me to provide evidence? My comment is OBVIOUSLY speculation, I’m not pretending I’m involved, and that’s why I have zero interest in even attempting to provide or find any specific evidence, I sincerely doubt there is any. I’m saying I don’t trust ICE to follow through. I think that given they are the untrustworthy actor in this whole situation, maybe you should focus your disapproval on them instead of me.
Your (carefully hedged) claim that orders were not ignored and the largest delay is a week is absolutely offensively absurd on its face and makes me extremely dubious that you’re even arguing in good faith, and that’s why this will be my last reply to you, but in parting I will at least offer this small token of evidence to help other readers understand how full of shit you are.
Are you seriously arguing that we’re supposed to give ICE and this administration the benefit of the doubt?
Nope not what I said. I just wanted examples.
Why on Earth would you imagine the onus is on me to provide evidence? My comment is OBVIOUSLY speculation
You summed up why I would want evidence since it is baseless speculation. Let’s get some facts here.
I have zero interest in even attempting to provide or find any specific evidence,
Oh :/
Your (carefully hedged) claim that orders were not ignored and the largest delay is a week is absolutely offensively absurd on its face and makes me extremely dubious that you’re even arguing in good faith, and that’s why this will be my last reply to you, but in parting I will at least offer this small token of evidence to help other readers understand how full of shit you are.
Gotcha, you were not interested in any kinda of a conversation, cool.
Your link is paywalled BTW, and doesn’t give me any info outside the title. So I can’t gauge what or how orders were broken. All I can say is I’m not surprised they did and hope one day all involved are held accountable for their crimes.
Fuck right off with your ICE apologism.
You really should take a deep breath and take a pause to think. I want the facts, I don’t want reactionary speculation. We have enough real documented crimes as is, and you’re probably right there are plenty more that are hidden. I just don’t see the need to speculate on what they might be doing when there is plenty enough about what we know they are doing. There’s enough known evidence to lock up half the administration if not the whole damn thing.
I’m sure more will be exposed one day, but today I don’t see the point of responding to good news with doomeristic speculation
But as you said you won’t be replying. I look forward to not hearing from you
This comment is also speculation is it not? We have evidence that the court ordered people to be released. We don’t have evidence that the order was ignored. Even in the cases where ICE/DHS have taken time to release people they drag their feet, maybe submit an appeal, but they have not outright ignored the order.
Huge asterisk of course because they did ignore orders when sending people out of country. But in terms of holding them domestically the largest delay I’ve heard was a week I believe where they were trying to get out of the court order through appeals.
Feel free to post evidence though, keeping up with the crimes of this administration is a full time job
Are you seriously arguing that we’re supposed to give ICE and this administration the benefit of the doubt? Why on Earth would you imagine the onus is on me to provide evidence? My comment is OBVIOUSLY speculation, I’m not pretending I’m involved, and that’s why I have zero interest in even attempting to provide or find any specific evidence, I sincerely doubt there is any. I’m saying I don’t trust ICE to follow through. I think that given they are the untrustworthy actor in this whole situation, maybe you should focus your disapproval on them instead of me.
Your (carefully hedged) claim that orders were not ignored and the largest delay is a week is absolutely offensively absurd on its face and makes me extremely dubious that you’re even arguing in good faith, and that’s why this will be my last reply to you, but in parting I will at least offer this small token of evidence to help other readers understand how full of shit you are.
The chief federal judge in Minnesota compiled a list of almost 100 different orders that had been violated in January alone. In one month. And he also correctly makes the point that it’s substantially understated. Fuck right off with your ICE apologism.
Nope not what I said. I just wanted examples.
You summed up why I would want evidence since it is baseless speculation. Let’s get some facts here.
Oh :/
Gotcha, you were not interested in any kinda of a conversation, cool.
Your link is paywalled BTW, and doesn’t give me any info outside the title. So I can’t gauge what or how orders were broken. All I can say is I’m not surprised they did and hope one day all involved are held accountable for their crimes.
You really should take a deep breath and take a pause to think. I want the facts, I don’t want reactionary speculation. We have enough real documented crimes as is, and you’re probably right there are plenty more that are hidden. I just don’t see the need to speculate on what they might be doing when there is plenty enough about what we know they are doing. There’s enough known evidence to lock up half the administration if not the whole damn thing.
I’m sure more will be exposed one day, but today I don’t see the point of responding to good news with doomeristic speculation
But as you said you won’t be replying. I look forward to not hearing from you