• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    doing all these things on a personal level also didn’t do much to help as far as i can see. i get conflicting propaganda now, and can maybe see accidental glimpses of the truth more often, woohoo. and i pay more for the privilege, but as lest i actualy have the financial mobility to make that choice. makes the nagging much more shrill.

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      16 hours ago

      the epstein class has been forced to reveal several times that collectivism is the only threat to them and all of this nagging directly points out to how the epsteins prevent collectivization from happening on an individual scale.

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          15 hours ago

          the nagging points to the things that you – as an individual – can do to ruin the epstein class’ day.

          and collectivism will make you understand why & how doing it will ruin their day so that you can take it a step further than just ruining a single day.

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            14 hours ago

            and i have done these things, and i see no difference.

            you push for individual culpability through othering and alienation to force collectivism, absurdity on nonsense.

            just the notion alone that in order to achieve collectivism one must alone shoulder the burden of systematic change separately is oxymoronic and a waste of time.

            do you just assume that people don’t do as you say because they are inherently evil? they actually seek the their end?

            all this nagging does’nt seem to be convincing me to agree with you after all

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              10 hours ago

              The nagging is the bare bones minimum that we could do and, as such, it has little impact by itself. (but could if everybody did it).

              Couple it something like protesting like Americans used to do during the civil rights era – ie the opposite of no kings rallies – and you get the same winning combination that Mexico had in 2017 – which lead them to permanently breaking up their own political duopoly and giving them president Sheinbaum.

              I’m not a fan of the nagging partially because it’s a last ditch effort but I can appreciate that’s the only step you can take to get people to do what morality, responsibility, and basic human deceny requires them to do.

              The other reason I don’t like nagging is because it’s clear by that point that you will not be convinced by reason or logic. Instead, history proves that nature has a way of forcing things and either climate change or catastrophic economic bubble is going to do a better – and significantly more painful – job than the nagging ever will do.