• Floon@lemmy.ml
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      1 day ago

      You can influence the Dems to move to the left, or you can help the fascists. Those are the real choices.

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        The only pressure we have is our vote. Voting for them anyway is how we got here in the first place.

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          No, not voting for them is how the GOP is as strong and fascist as it is.

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      A third party winning is literally impossible. Anything other than a vote for the Democrats in the genral election is effectively half a vote for the Republicans.

      Anyone telling others to vote 3rd party is either a fucking idiot or is intentionally trying to water down the anti-fascist vote. Either way, shut the hell up. We need to stop the motherfuckers currently in power, and you’re making that harder.

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          They aren’t in the debates. They aren’t in the news. They frequently aren’t in the ballot.

          Bernie has achieved what he has by caucusing as a Democrat. He joined the Democratic Party for both his Presidential campaigns.

          Third parties are spoilers. That’s it.

          If 1% of the Florida voters who voted for the Green party in 2000 had instead voted for Gore, Bush would never have been President and the world would be in a much better place.