The LHC was completed in 08. That chip was sold from 06 to 12. This means basically half the pc’s they bought ~15 years ago are still meeting their needs.
Honestly, this is the way it should be. The only reason most enterprises upgrade their computers is because Microslop, and all the other proprietary software they’ve allowed themselves to grow dependent on, require it; not because a 20 year old computer isn’t snappy on Debian, or isn’t powerful enough for email, docs, and browsing. The LHC requires supercomputers and server farms for primary operations. These pc’s are basically just thin clients to access those resources.
There are still a shocking amount of Windows XP and 7 systems in production, because the software stack doesn’t need to be updated. If those systems had been deployed on linux 20 years ago, they would still be fully capable of receiving security updates.
Yeah, and that’s generally fine if it isn’t critical infra that could be targeted by bad actors, and they don’t have wifi or uncontrolled interfaces. The risk and damage of someone pulling apart an ATM to get at a USB port is negligible.
The main problem with it is the longer things don’t get upgraded the less people know how to fix or service them, which adds extra friction and cost to change anything with each passing year. After 10-20 years of zero updates, major projects are required because the OS and software stack need a complete overhaul to make even the smallest software change, and the software becomes a major bottleneck to organizational change or operations.
The only reason most enterprises upgrade their computers is because Microslop
Honestly - not true. It’s compliance. Compliance says you need to be insured, insurance says you need to have vendor support, vendor says sorry, your old shit is out of support.
That’s just a crazy number and I was not aware how dated their systems were. On the other hand, never touch a running system.
The LHC was completed in 08. That chip was sold from 06 to 12. This means basically half the pc’s they bought ~15 years ago are still meeting their needs.
Honestly, this is the way it should be. The only reason most enterprises upgrade their computers is because Microslop, and all the other proprietary software they’ve allowed themselves to grow dependent on, require it; not because a 20 year old computer isn’t snappy on Debian, or isn’t powerful enough for email, docs, and browsing. The LHC requires supercomputers and server farms for primary operations. These pc’s are basically just thin clients to access those resources.
There are still a shocking amount of Windows XP and 7 systems in production, because the software stack doesn’t need to be updated. If those systems had been deployed on linux 20 years ago, they would still be fully capable of receiving security updates.
I work manufacturing, any computer that isn’t connected to the internet doesn’t get upgraded. Windows XP on PLC touchscreens.
Yeah, and that’s generally fine if it isn’t critical infra that could be targeted by bad actors, and they don’t have wifi or uncontrolled interfaces. The risk and damage of someone pulling apart an ATM to get at a USB port is negligible.
The main problem with it is the longer things don’t get upgraded the less people know how to fix or service them, which adds extra friction and cost to change anything with each passing year. After 10-20 years of zero updates, major projects are required because the OS and software stack need a complete overhaul to make even the smallest software change, and the software becomes a major bottleneck to organizational change or operations.
Yeah, maybe your CISO should read a book about Stuxnet lol
I’m not sure he can read :( Or fix a landline phone connection, apparently.
You are saying that to someone who recently bought a Lenovo T420 with a new battery pack, installed Debian with Xfce. An amazing work horse.
Honestly - not true. It’s compliance. Compliance says you need to be insured, insurance says you need to have vendor support, vendor says sorry, your old shit is out of support.
Good job, now remind us who the os vendor was again…?