trust me I definitely use it, however fundamentally this is taking a place that has like 3 hobbies (American politics, Linux and Left Wing Progressive/American politics) and making it even smaller, this was supposed to be an alternative to reddit but it has like 7 active comms that aren’t somehow related to the above 3, even Lemmy Shitpost is filled with American/Left Wing Politics ALL the time
You’re going to say next: be the change you seek and I am however I am a drop in the American ocean
Im pretty active in cooking/gardening/gaming. Dont post much about politics, honestly cuz Im afraid of the surveilence state… so I avoid comment mostly in that topic and lurk. Seems okay to me, I dont often fight with anyone.
It’s what you make it. Post about your hobbies, remain positive, and youll get that back; Not only here, but it works this way in life mostly too. No one cares where youre from in the comm types I mentioned. Post youre aussie garden. My favorite garden video I ever saw was a fella from Australia. His garden was gorgeous and he was cool af.
why don’t you bring all your rightwing friends and make it the place you want it to be, this place sucks for you because it works with people actually doing things. You want work done for you, go back to reddit
Do you need to be rightwing to get annoyed by boring bland statements that get repeated over and over and over and over and over again that oversimplify and frame everything as the pure evil that cannot be convinced to change vs us
Even if you agree with them, do they not annoy you?
That doesn’t mean the place sucks, that only means I choose which topics/communities I spend time with. I’m not going to blame people for being angry at the system, for making their own education. I’m not expected to be part of these conversations, so I don’t go there. Some days I don’t even open the app andit’s fine
Of course, that alone is not terrible, but when that, along with us politics and linux, are literally in every single community and people will complain if you dare to mention that you do not want us politics filling your feed, that may become an issue
I don’t know what that means sorry, can you explain further?
A quick look at your profile shows you’re clearly in your zone here (American politics, Linux and Left Wing Progressive/American politics) so that’s good for you at least?
It’s pretty ok, yes. There’s no shortage of platforms, and this one pushes for community control, so its political leaning isn’t surprising, and since I like community control, I fit. You should try to find your community that aligns with you, but with software and communities that favor common working there’s little chance it will not be left leaning
Yeah it looked great until the creator of it went on a mad dash banning everyone he didn’t like for wrongthink, not quite sure how your message came through to me I’m pretty sure I was banned for every ism under the sun
It’s especially ironic when I get called a right wing American when I detest America, the level of thought here is the most primitive I’ve ever seen on an internet forum “agree with me or you are nazi”
So here I sit, Lemmy has chased away all the normal people and left people like the above who say things like “why don’t you bring all your rightwing friends” when I don’t have rightwing friends, I have friends with hobbies outside of American politics, Linux and Left Wing Progressive/American politics, and if I dare complain about the lack of interesting content here it’s because I am lazy and not doing enough :\
Instance admins are - and should be - entirely free to pick and choose who gets platformed on their own personal machines. That is their freedom and right! Though you are likewise free to pick an instance that aligns well with your own values, or even spin up one of your own (even using PieFed, or alternately Lemmy or Mbin, etc.) - that is your freedom and right!!:-)
A lot of what gets said about PieFed is overblown or even untrue… but obviously not all. I see that you are banned from the entire instance of PieFed.social… though I also see a significant amount of content from you hosted on that instance - so maybe there’s a bug and the ban didn’t take? (iirc that has happened before…) Or perhaps there’s a different bug and it expired already, but without indication of that fact? The modlog offers no reason why, just that it was done by an admin.
The Political Left is fairly divisive, but it’s that way everywhere, it’s just that there’s more of such people here than most other places. And it is highly ironic that the people who claim to most value empathy are the least likely to offer it to others on a personal level - though in fairness this has more to do with “extremism” and the tribal level of thinking that are traps often fallen into by people on both sides of any kind of political division that someone chooses to make.
I suppose your options are either to mask up, or narrow your spaces of interactions, or else simply become insensitive to others responses (I hope you don’t choose this option). The easiest route might be to avoid discussing anything even remotely political in the largest communities here. Bc while you may have been offered a “right” to speak your mind simply by making an account on some instance somewhere in the Threadiverse, other instances and also each community and individually also reserves the right to not enjoy what you have to say, and to not offer their spaces to platform your views.
Rimu basically went nuts and made a List, like The List from the Tesseract guy. Except this one was baked at the code level of the software running the backend of the communities, so communities got forced to ban left-wing aligned content on update without a choice in the matter. Plus, the software had CCP-style shadow profiling of people to hide their posts, and in at least one known case editorializing someone’s posts on client view, without the poster being made aware that their content was being editorialized (essentially, attributing them false speech).
Rimu and the Lemmy devs are all complex characters. For instance, the Lemmy devs are widely known to edit people’s messages without telling them. Otoh, most of us consider that fine. Note that this is a weird, conspiratorial manner of phrasing the slur word filter that changes a message’s content after submission, and obviously the author will subsequently see that their message has been altered from what they had intended - there have been numerous posts over the years asking why this is, from people who did not realize that this feature existed.
Rimu’s addition of an attribution not to singular people but to whole entire URL domains or instances is one such example - it is not “blocking” or “filtering” content, but allowing instance admins a third option to retain the content while placing a message next to it, which could for instance warn users that their home instance takes no responsibility for the correctness of such a message, or that the expectations for comment replies differs from the norms. Otherwise the only other option would be to filter out the message entirely - which I also note that the Lemmy devs are infamous for doing extremely often anyway. Rimu thus offers this as a LESSER limitation upon free speech than what the Lemmy devs have deigned to offer.
The PieFed software is “opinionated” - that’s valid - but most of the hate it gets is extremely overblown, while overlooking how it offers MORE rights to people than Lemmy. We don’t need to be so tribal - which I admit I’ve been myself for far too long.
Anyway, FOSS is free software regardless, and anyone at all could fork it at any time. In fact, PyLova already did just that, and is even adding several nice features that PieFed lacks:-).
If you search for rimu you’ll quickly find all sorts of interesting threads and comments, that said I thought he banned me but it looks like I mixed up rimu mass banning from piefed.social and teseract mass shadowbanning users
it’s funny because I thought coming from reddit there would be less moderation but instead it looks like the opposite has happened
Shout out to piefed for promoting this thread though:
trust me I definitely use it, however fundamentally this is taking a place that has like 3 hobbies (American politics, Linux and Left Wing Progressive/American politics) and making it even smaller, this was supposed to be an alternative to reddit but it has like 7 active comms that aren’t somehow related to the above 3, even Lemmy Shitpost is filled with American/Left Wing Politics ALL the time
You’re going to say next: be the change you seek and I am however I am a drop in the American ocean
Im pretty active in cooking/gardening/gaming. Dont post much about politics, honestly cuz Im afraid of the surveilence state… so I avoid comment mostly in that topic and lurk. Seems okay to me, I dont often fight with anyone.
It’s what you make it. Post about your hobbies, remain positive, and youll get that back; Not only here, but it works this way in life mostly too. No one cares where youre from in the comm types I mentioned. Post youre aussie garden. My favorite garden video I ever saw was a fella from Australia. His garden was gorgeous and he was cool af.
Ooh can I get links to those comms
why don’t you bring all your rightwing friends and make it the place you want it to be, this place sucks for you because it works with people actually doing things. You want work done for you, go back to reddit
Do you need to be rightwing to get annoyed by boring bland statements that get repeated over and over and over and over and over again that oversimplify and frame everything as the pure evil that cannot be convinced to change vs us
Even if you agree with them, do they not annoy you?
That doesn’t mean the place sucks, that only means I choose which topics/communities I spend time with. I’m not going to blame people for being angry at the system, for making their own education. I’m not expected to be part of these conversations, so I don’t go there. Some days I don’t even open the app andit’s fine
Of course, that alone is not terrible, but when that, along with us politics and linux, are literally in every single community and people will complain if you dare to mention that you do not want us politics filling your feed, that may become an issue
I don’t know what that means sorry, can you explain further?
A quick look at your profile shows you’re clearly in your zone here (American politics, Linux and Left Wing Progressive/American politics) so that’s good for you at least?
It’s pretty ok, yes. There’s no shortage of platforms, and this one pushes for community control, so its political leaning isn’t surprising, and since I like community control, I fit. You should try to find your community that aligns with you, but with software and communities that favor common working there’s little chance it will not be left leaning
You might find that Piefed makes it easier to curate your feed. It has keyword filters which for me makes all the difference.
Yeah it looked great until the creator of it went on a mad dash banning everyone he didn’t like for wrongthink, not quite sure how your message came through to me I’m pretty sure I was banned for every ism under the sun
It’s especially ironic when I get called a right wing American when I detest America, the level of thought here is the most primitive I’ve ever seen on an internet forum “agree with me or you are nazi”
So here I sit, Lemmy has chased away all the normal people and left people like the above who say things like “why don’t you bring all your rightwing friends” when I don’t have rightwing friends, I have friends with hobbies outside of American politics, Linux and Left Wing Progressive/American politics, and if I dare complain about the lack of interesting content here it’s because I am lazy and not doing enough :\
Instance admins are - and should be - entirely free to pick and choose who gets platformed on their own personal machines. That is their freedom and right! Though you are likewise free to pick an instance that aligns well with your own values, or even spin up one of your own (even using PieFed, or alternately Lemmy or Mbin, etc.) - that is your freedom and right!!:-)
A lot of what gets said about PieFed is overblown or even untrue… but obviously not all. I see that you are banned from the entire instance of PieFed.social… though I also see a significant amount of content from you hosted on that instance - so maybe there’s a bug and the ban didn’t take? (iirc that has happened before…) Or perhaps there’s a different bug and it expired already, but without indication of that fact? The modlog offers no reason why, just that it was done by an admin.
The Political Left is fairly divisive, but it’s that way everywhere, it’s just that there’s more of such people here than most other places. And it is highly ironic that the people who claim to most value empathy are the least likely to offer it to others on a personal level - though in fairness this has more to do with “extremism” and the tribal level of thinking that are traps often fallen into by people on both sides of any kind of political division that someone chooses to make.
I suppose your options are either to mask up, or narrow your spaces of interactions, or else simply become insensitive to others responses (I hope you don’t choose this option). The easiest route might be to avoid discussing anything even remotely political in the largest communities here. Bc while you may have been offered a “right” to speak your mind simply by making an account on some instance somewhere in the Threadiverse, other instances and also each community and individually also reserves the right to not enjoy what you have to say, and to not offer their spaces to platform your views.
What happened with the creator of piefed?
Rimu basically went nuts and made a List, like The List from the Tesseract guy. Except this one was baked at the code level of the software running the backend of the communities, so communities got forced to ban left-wing aligned content on update without a choice in the matter. Plus, the software had CCP-style shadow profiling of people to hide their posts, and in at least one known case editorializing someone’s posts on client view, without the poster being made aware that their content was being editorialized (essentially, attributing them false speech).
Rimu and the Lemmy devs are all complex characters. For instance, the Lemmy devs are widely known to edit people’s messages without telling them. Otoh, most of us consider that fine. Note that this is a weird, conspiratorial manner of phrasing the slur word filter that changes a message’s content after submission, and obviously the author will subsequently see that their message has been altered from what they had intended - there have been numerous posts over the years asking why this is, from people who did not realize that this feature existed.
Rimu’s addition of an attribution not to singular people but to whole entire URL domains or instances is one such example - it is not “blocking” or “filtering” content, but allowing instance admins a third option to retain the content while placing a message next to it, which could for instance warn users that their home instance takes no responsibility for the correctness of such a message, or that the expectations for comment replies differs from the norms. Otherwise the only other option would be to filter out the message entirely - which I also note that the Lemmy devs are infamous for doing extremely often anyway. Rimu thus offers this as a LESSER limitation upon free speech than what the Lemmy devs have deigned to offer.
The PieFed software is “opinionated” - that’s valid - but most of the hate it gets is extremely overblown, while overlooking how it offers MORE rights to people than Lemmy. We don’t need to be so tribal - which I admit I’ve been myself for far too long.
Anyway, FOSS is free software regardless, and anyone at all could fork it at any time. In fact, PyLova already did just that, and is even adding several nice features that PieFed lacks:-).
If you search for rimu you’ll quickly find all sorts of interesting threads and comments, that said I thought he banned me but it looks like I mixed up rimu mass banning from piefed.social and teseract mass shadowbanning users
it’s funny because I thought coming from reddit there would be less moderation but instead it looks like the opposite has happened
Shout out to piefed for promoting this thread though:
https://piefed.social/c/fediverse@lemmy.world/p/2333032/announcing-the-threadiverse-vibrancy-challenge-sep-1-30-2026