The remote is still needed so you can pick the AppleTV from input sources, adjust volume, or select picture mode. AppleTV, AFAIK doesn’t have HEC. You need it on both ends for one device to tunnel via Ethernet. AppleTV also doesn’t do ACR and has third-party Jellyfin support. Not so sure about other streaming stick/boxes.
Two other potential sources for the TV getting out: 1) TV may silently turn wifi on and scan for open routers nearby, and 2) if the REMOTE has wifi on it. Both would be easy to honeypot.
It’s pure madness we all have to speculate about ANY of this. Anyone in LG’s corporate line who approved this crap should be demoted for sheer stupidity.
Out of curiosity, I checked online. You can find basic, LG-compatible remotes for under $7 USD. At that price, I can’t imagine it’s more than just infra-red. In that case, the TV’s network board can be disconnected without losing any functionality.
Fortunately, CEC alone is not enough to get out to the net.
The remote is still needed so you can pick the AppleTV from input sources, adjust volume, or select picture mode. AppleTV, AFAIK doesn’t have HEC. You need it on both ends for one device to tunnel via Ethernet. AppleTV also doesn’t do ACR and has third-party Jellyfin support. Not so sure about other streaming stick/boxes.
The interface is navigable with the single button they give you on the bottom (Remember buttons? I 'member…), so that’s workable. I know the Apple TV reports itself as such on the TV’s input selector. Not sure if that’s related to this HEC thing though.
It’s pure madness we all have to speculate about ANY of this. Anyone in LG’s corporate line who approved this crap should be demoted for sheer stupidity.
I don’t disagree there. But that’s the thing - it’s not just LG doing this. Nearly every “smart” TV manufacturer does it.
I’ve been working hard to rid my house of this spy shit, but the TV went under the radar for a long time. This has given me a good motivation bump to keep at it, knowing that what I’m doing isn’t for nothing. And my wife is 100% onboard, which really helps.
I have ZERO doubt other makers pull the same shit. I’ve been through Sony and Samsung. LG just had the best picture quality. Didn’ think they would abuse the trust. They have.
LG also sells really decent home appliances. We have a few. Not sure I trust them not to be abusing that trust.
Yeah, I’m like hyper aware of these shenanigans at this point.
Hell, we just bought a HiSense portable AC that I didn’t realize had wifi until it was delivered. I straight up ripped out the wifi module as soon as I took it out of the box. I actually just got some parts for a fully local ESP32 replacement that I found on a whim after a bit of googling 😂
The remote is still needed so you can pick the AppleTV from input sources, adjust volume, or select picture mode. AppleTV, AFAIK doesn’t have HEC. You need it on both ends for one device to tunnel via Ethernet. AppleTV also doesn’t do ACR and has third-party Jellyfin support. Not so sure about other streaming stick/boxes.
Two other potential sources for the TV getting out: 1) TV may silently turn wifi on and scan for open routers nearby, and 2) if the REMOTE has wifi on it. Both would be easy to honeypot.
It’s pure madness we all have to speculate about ANY of this. Anyone in LG’s corporate line who approved this crap should be demoted for sheer stupidity.
CEC covers most use cases for me. I barely touch the TV remote. Some models have physical joystick controls if you still want back into the menus.
Out of curiosity, I checked online. You can find basic, LG-compatible remotes for under $7 USD. At that price, I can’t imagine it’s more than just infra-red. In that case, the TV’s network board can be disconnected without losing any functionality.
Fortunately, CEC alone is not enough to get out to the net.
The interface is navigable with the single button they give you on the bottom (Remember buttons? I 'member…), so that’s workable. I know the Apple TV reports itself as such on the TV’s input selector. Not sure if that’s related to this HEC thing though.
I don’t disagree there. But that’s the thing - it’s not just LG doing this. Nearly every “smart” TV manufacturer does it.
I’ve been working hard to rid my house of this spy shit, but the TV went under the radar for a long time. This has given me a good motivation bump to keep at it, knowing that what I’m doing isn’t for nothing. And my wife is 100% onboard, which really helps.
I have ZERO doubt other makers pull the same shit. I’ve been through Sony and Samsung. LG just had the best picture quality. Didn’ think they would abuse the trust. They have.
LG also sells really decent home appliances. We have a few. Not sure I trust them not to be abusing that trust.
Yeah, I’m like hyper aware of these shenanigans at this point.
Hell, we just bought a HiSense portable AC that I didn’t realize had wifi until it was delivered. I straight up ripped out the wifi module as soon as I took it out of the box. I actually just got some parts for a fully local ESP32 replacement that I found on a whim after a bit of googling 😂