So a roundabout for Americans?
Already exists in better.
summarizes american infrastructure: needlessly massive, dangerous, and helps absolutely fucking no one.
I assume the ‘engineer’ has never seen a road or drove a car, because even if we assume more infrastructure will solve induced demand, and even if everyone’s going at a nice 30mph, this intersection is gonna go at like 3 accidents/minute.
This would gridlock so fast. Actually I think it would gridlock so incredibly hard that cars would end up abandoned after they ran out of gas from how long they were stuck.
Median U-Turn (MUT) Intersection?
…and yes they are as confusing as they look.
Those 180° turns look way too tight for semi-trailer trucks. Even the vans are drifting there.
And all those single lanes, merging, and tight turns are a recipe for congestion.
A proper roundabout would work much better, waste less concrete, and probably take up less space.
@destructdisc LOL, this is like a very fucked up roundabout. It takes way more space and is way more dangerous.
dude bro, we need to drive at 90 MILES PER HOUR AT ALL TIMES!
As if normal roundabouts didn’t already take up enough space.
A very elaborate roundabout for sure
A very roundabout way of building one.
Yes
This is just a flattened highway interchange.
Also, holy shit so many combination enter/exit lanes, so many potential points of high-velocity conflict!
Exacrly my thought, those already exist and work wonderfully, why try to make them flat and 100 times more dangerous in the process?
This looks like hell…
It’s only one lane of traffic either way and you’ve got to merge in and out of two separate traffic flows in a short distance just to go ‘straight’ through to the other side.
Bloody hell. So much merging and switching of lanes. There would broken bits of car everywhere. The only upside would be the ability of bikes to go past the gridlock that would happen at a certain density of traffic. Also, why do so many people in the animation need to U-turn?
They need a U turn because they missed their exit at the previous insanely designed interchange
Came to say the same thing. So many lane changes needed in a short distance. People suck at merging at the best of times. This is a panel beater’s wet dream. That ‘engineer’ needs to go back to school.
This is why engineers need to go outside and experience the real world like the rest of us.
I’ve spent a fair proportion of my life around civil, structural, mechanical and process engineers, and found them to be some of the most pragmatic, sensible, intelligent and practical people you’ll even meet. The shit they design needs to work, or people die. Whoever designed this is not one of those people.
I’ve spent a fair portion of my professional career working for engineers of various types. The issue lies with the people who assume their intense knowledge of their chosen field of study means that they are experts in all fields of human existence. This pomposity leads to the stereotypical engineer who gets trapped into CAD models that don’t translate to the real world and get belligerent when that gets pointed out. Certainly I’ve met engineers who aren’t like that, but the stereotype exists for a reason. Perhaps it’s Electrical engineers that are the worst? I meet a lot of them.
Retired school teachers are another problematic customer who knows more than any seasoned journeyman.
I’ve always heard that in civil engineering the ones who design parking lots are the worst of them, based on the results we see in the world. Maybe this was from one of them accidentally handed something outside their normal work.
That’s how you go left. Basically the same as a Michigan left.
Two wrongs don’t make a right, but three rights make a left.
three rights make a left.
That’s a jug handle, not a Michigan left.
Source: I live in Michigan. Michigan lefts are awesome.
Because they’re on a stroad and the business they want to visit is on the other side
The people uturning are just trying to go straight lol. They have to turn right, merge left, u turn, merge right, and turn right, in order to go straight. Others are trying to turn left which here involves a u turn, merge right, turn right.
That’s just a big roundabout
This design is an abomination really, there’d be so many accidents around the merging, where the traffic streams effectively have to swap over.
Because, you know, cars and car infrastructure don’t already take up massive amounts of space as is.
The only defence of this is that it would take LESS space than some kind of cloverleaf system. I think this whole design is trying to be space efficient whilst attemptign to keep traffic flowing (which it wouldn’t do).
Making it so most of the traffic is in a merging state is a really bad idea. So many accidents happen because of people changing lanes, and here a large part of the traffic needs to do that, plus has little space and time to do it in. I’d love to see this made in something like City Skylines, just to show how bad it gets (without the car accidents, though, unless newest versions also simulate that).
and here a large part of the traffic needs to [change lanes]
Only if you make a right turn you dont have to merge, but then there is still a lane merging into yours. So a (very) large part of the traffic has to change lanes, but everybody is merging. If you want to drive straight, you have to merge twice. Total madness.
I used to commute an hour to work every day, each way, and the worst part was cross-merging traffic, exactly like there are 4 of in this design.
