In that case then, if it’s all that bad I have to ask what two more weeks of suffering, which is all it would take if enough did a shutdown, is going to add.

I’ll say this much, I would throw myself on it if it was that bad for me, because I’d have nothing to lose. I think Americans fail to understand that other countries had it better because they did that suffering and striking a while ago.

We all constantly hear how bad it is and how oppressed you are, well, what is there to lose? You’re saying it, not us, but you got no problem claiming we don’t get it or understand.

No one wants Americans to take violent paths but they are where they are because the easier options weren’t taken. That’s why there’s so much push from the outside for peaceful shutdowns. Yes, we know, you constantly remind us…jobs, kids.

There’s an excuse every time. Sorry, a reason, it must be remembered which nation that is and the filters applied.

The easier options work too, the Republicans prove that repeatedly. Or did. It might be gone now.

Don’t prove Churchill right again. The sooner it’s gotten out of the way, the easier it’ll be. It would have been easier if done earlier, though it’s got to be remembered this president was elected so there’s limited ways to get rid of him outside a vote or violence.

Shutting down the country (to paint a broad brush) to get enough influential people to act, Congress to act then enforce an impeachment seems to be one of those, looking from the outside.

I’ll add this; none of us outside and our governments, even if they wanted to, can help. We are having enough trouble with our own wingnuts and that in no small way has been driven by the problems with the US.