you’re the one that was proposing broken solutions to a climate problem. I was just pointing out the misconception that you individually doing anything has any real significant impact.
I suppose if an individual could do anything that would have any significant impact they could take a page from Luigi’s manifesto.
personally I think it’s foolish to believe that people in this day and age would come together without some kind of individual incentive. sure, you and your 3% can come together but again…not any significant impact.
as Archimedes said, “Give me the place to stand, and I shall move the earth.”
it’s not about finding a solution but rather the proper amount of leverage. how does being vegan bring leverage against those who compel and feed global climate change? all it does is flaunt a misplaced sense of moral superiority so you can attempt to shame others into compliance. it’s such a weak stance that I doubt vegans truly believe it, which is why vegans are such a loud and outspoken minority.
Dude veganism is one of the best ways to reduce you’re carbon footprint. I know it’s hard for some people. I struggle with it. But it is a fact that if you eat less meat you are helping the environment. How about going vegan twice a week?
You can shit on veganism all you like but it works. Again, what are you actually doing? You wanna be luigi? Fucking do it, but stop shitting on others trying to make a difference. We’re on the same team (i hope).
you want to be vegan because of some moral code, fine. that’s a personal choice. don’t shame others into your personal choice so you feel morally superior.
you want to be vegan because you believe your actions are having a significant worldwide impact on climate change, you’re lying to yourself or you’ve been lied to. it’s no different than being asked to use paper straws, or paper bags, or inflating your tires more, or turning your thermostat up or down.
the only way to slow climate change is through legislation. the only way to get legislation is to remove corporate interests from government. the only way to remove those interests is to expose the corruption. you don’t have to kill anybody. you don’t have to destroy infrastructure. you just need to investigate connections with lobbyists and political leaders.
I promise you, if 3% of the US population began to deeply investigate politician relationships and money, something would change immediately. far faster than if you changed your diet.
still don’t believe me? when was the last time individual self-sacrifice solved any problem with government? I’m talking starvation, sleep deprivation, self immolation, etc. dietary protests change personal opinion, not public opinion.
Then what are you even trying to fix? I just see you arguing against veganism, not proposing anything else.
you’re the one that was proposing broken solutions to a climate problem. I was just pointing out the misconception that you individually doing anything has any real significant impact.
I suppose if an individual could do anything that would have any significant impact they could take a page from Luigi’s manifesto.
personally I think it’s foolish to believe that people in this day and age would come together without some kind of individual incentive. sure, you and your 3% can come together but again…not any significant impact.
as Archimedes said, “Give me the place to stand, and I shall move the earth.”
it’s not about finding a solution but rather the proper amount of leverage. how does being vegan bring leverage against those who compel and feed global climate change? all it does is flaunt a misplaced sense of moral superiority so you can attempt to shame others into compliance. it’s such a weak stance that I doubt vegans truly believe it, which is why vegans are such a loud and outspoken minority.
Dude veganism is one of the best ways to reduce you’re carbon footprint. I know it’s hard for some people. I struggle with it. But it is a fact that if you eat less meat you are helping the environment. How about going vegan twice a week?
You can shit on veganism all you like but it works. Again, what are you actually doing? You wanna be luigi? Fucking do it, but stop shitting on others trying to make a difference. We’re on the same team (i hope).
efforts lost on false hope are efforts wasted.
you want to be vegan because of some moral code, fine. that’s a personal choice. don’t shame others into your personal choice so you feel morally superior.
you want to be vegan because you believe your actions are having a significant worldwide impact on climate change, you’re lying to yourself or you’ve been lied to. it’s no different than being asked to use paper straws, or paper bags, or inflating your tires more, or turning your thermostat up or down.
the only way to slow climate change is through legislation. the only way to get legislation is to remove corporate interests from government. the only way to remove those interests is to expose the corruption. you don’t have to kill anybody. you don’t have to destroy infrastructure. you just need to investigate connections with lobbyists and political leaders.
I promise you, if 3% of the US population began to deeply investigate politician relationships and money, something would change immediately. far faster than if you changed your diet.
still don’t believe me? when was the last time individual self-sacrifice solved any problem with government? I’m talking starvation, sleep deprivation, self immolation, etc. dietary protests change personal opinion, not public opinion.