• Taleya@aussie.zone
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    4 days ago

    What makes you think it’s harder to keep cool?

    Soil is a great insulator - protected from sun the sheer mass makes it much, much cooler than above ground. Without the additional external heat its much easier to climate conteol.

    (Yes it does get hotter the further you go but that’s due to proximity to the planet’s core…ain’t no one putting a dc down that far)

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      What makes you think it’s harder to keep cool?

      Soil is a great insulator

      That’s exactly what makes me think it’s harder. Datacenters need to move dozens (or these days hundreds) of megawatts of power away. For this they either heat air or evaporate water both of which flows away through the atmosphere, or - much more rarely unfortunately - they heat water which flows away through pipes to heat other buildings.

      Energy coming in from sunlight or warm surrounding air is negligible, the important factor is the energy coming in electrically and being converted to heat. For that a surrounding insulator is the last thing you want.

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        4 days ago

        Yeah nah, that’s not how it works. Most dcs are insulated to prevent thermal bridging to the outside world

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          Hahahah absolutely not.

          You know conservation of energy in a closed system, yes? What do you think happens when dozens of megawatt of power is transported in electrically, and get turned into heat in a bunch of semiconductors and electrical motors, and you don’t transport any of that heat out?

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            4 days ago

            Dude.

            You do realise cooling and heat export is possible with an insulated building, yea? In fact the better the insulation the more effective the climate control.

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              Don’t “dude” me, you’re the one claiming DCs don’t want thermal bridging, when in fact they are all about somehow building the maximum possible multilane bridge of doom to our atmosphere to get rid of all the heat as effectively as possible.

              Your common wisdom of good insulation is good for effective climate control only applies to buildings where an insignificant amount of heat in generated inside.

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                4 days ago

                Yeah nah mate. Not what i’m saying, and if you want to make up stupid shit to pretend argue against, you can do it without involving me.

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                  Okay, maybe just ruminate on how an insulating layer of soil helps with removing heat, maybe it will come to you later.