Say NO to Mandatory E-Bike License Plates and Registrations - Bike East Bay
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Tell the state legislature that increased regulation on legal e-bikes is counter-productive to traffic safety, sustainability, and equity goals.

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/34367979

More barriers to cycling means more cars which means more dead cyclists. Help us defeat this terrible anti-safety bill.

  • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
    41·
    2 days ago

    Dude, I can do that and I’m not even every fast. If you rode a bike with good gear range I bet you could too.

    • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
      12·
      2 days ago

      You can drive at speeds that are around (or in dense urban areas above) the general speed limit? That’s nice for you every time you are on a race track but totally irrelevant for biking as a general mode of personal mobility.

      • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
        4·
        2 days ago

        How the hell is that irrelevant exactly? It’s not hard to get to that speed for anyone, you don’t need to be an athlete, therefore, treating ebikes like motorcycles or mopeds is, in short, fucking dumb.

        • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
          12·
          1 day ago

          Ebikes are motorcycles, just not with combustion motors for once.

          So why treat them like otherwise when they have weights and speeds matching those smaller motorcycles and mopeds? Oh, I know… to terrorize actual bikers on their infrastructure with your license-free much heavier and much faster vehicles.

          Those ebike users (preferably with oversized impractical fat bikes they would never voluntarily move without that equally oversized motor) that cry if they can’t use bike lanes at car speeds and without any license are the modern version of those “the best bike infrastructure is no bike infrastructure because we should just drive between cars” idiots amd MAMILs… somehow fighting against biking in the name of biking.

            • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
              12·
              14 hours ago

              Sure, electric motorcycles driving at car speeds are totally not motorcycles and should drive between much slower and lighter bikes (and ebikes with sane speeds) on bike infrastructure, without a license of course. And if you want them to be regulated you are somehow just hating regular bikes, ebikes and pedelecs. 🤣

              But OP is already argueing how every unfit regular biker casually drives above 28mph in urban areas (which Incidently is above the car speed limit where I live…), so sanity has left the room long ago…

              • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                31·
                13 hours ago

                I re-read to double check and no, they are not arguing that.

                Also, 28 mph is a class 3 electric bicycle, not a motor vehicle, which is an entirely different class of transport. You can argue otherwise but you’ll be wrong aka full of shit.

                • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
                  12·
                  13 hours ago

                  The whole argument OK is making is that such a “class 3 electric bicycle” should be treated like a totally normal bike, because it’s somehow, magically not much faster and much heavier than normal bikes as everyone is totally driving at 30mph in regular bike commute…

                  Which indeed is wrong and a pile of shit argument.

                  I never said that an 28mph ebike is legally a motorcycle. I argued that a “class 3 electric vehicle” with the weight and speed of a moped (just electric) should be treated as one and not as a bike. And since that statement OP tries to convince me how 28mph is a total normal everyday thing in casual biking even for unfit people. As someone actually commuting by bike daily… that’s insane.

                  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    2·
                    12 hours ago

                    You clearly aren’t arguing in good faith here and I’m not going to entertain any more of your bullshit. Have a nice day!