President’s speech, declassification of documents and heightened claims of noncitizen voting have experts concerned

A series of moves by Donald Trump’s administration to sow doubt in the integrity of US elections have intensified concern among voting experts – and sparked hope among election deniers – that it could declare a national emergency.

The White House and US federal agencies have released a string of documents this summer – including disputed analyses of alleged voting by noncitzens and historical intelligence memos – stoking expectations that the US president could move to exert greater control over November’s US midterm elections.

Trump used a primetime television address in July to claim – again – that US elections were vulnerable to foreign manipulation, and repeat the lie that the 2020 presidential election, which he lost to Joe Biden, was stolen.

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    I live in the South. Do not think for one fucking minute that the red states will not comply with Mango Mussolini. We are heading to a civil war. Hell we have been in a cold civil war since Reconstruction. It really got ramped up after Nixon. I am at a point where I am buying guns, ammo, and dry goods because I fear what is coming. Some of the people you think are your friends will betray you. We are headed for dark times and I really don’t know what to do.

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      I don’t doubt anything you’re saying. Do you have an approximate time frame? Like, maybe in two years? Four years?

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      Sure, stock up to protect your compound if you want, but I don’t think we are heading for a full-scale conflict on US soil. While war is generally good for business, that’s only when the fighting and dying are done Over There. Both sides would agree that war here is bad for business.

      I can see us going through a National Divorce at some point. Here’s the script I would write: if the National Christians (Let’s call them Nat-C’s for short, it is fitting) want to hold a Constitutional Convention to remake government, why not let them? We’ll simply hold a parallel one for the sane states to make our own Government, with less Fascism. The two sets of delegates will have to get together at some point, though, to work out how the Federal Govenrment’s Assets and Liabilities are divided among the States.

      Once all the delegates finish, we will have two competing Constitutions, and each State should be required to run a referendum to decide which they join. If things work out the way we expect, the Nat-C’s have all the Red states, we get all the sane states, and we are all better off.

      But, the large Red states like Florida and Texas still have their own sizeable urban populations. If presented an “A/B” choice of this magnitude, they may come out and vote. If the new Nat-C country just has all the backwater states, it will go bankrupt faster than a Trump Casino. At that point, you will need the guns and ammo that the Nat-C’s let you keep, to fend off your God-fearing neighbors.

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        This would be the fair and rational thing to do. Except those in power know most blue states are where the tax base is. So they would never do this. Since red states are welfare states.

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          #76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.

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        The two sets of delegates will have to get together at some point, though, to work out how the Federal Govenrment’s Assets and Liabilities are divided among the States.

        Do not be fooled into thinking what happened in Iraq in 1979 won’t be attempted in the US. The Trump admin has already accused the left and anti-fascists as terrorist. All that’s left is to lie and claim there are democrats and republicans in their ranks who are “anti-american” and people will be willing to celebrate a third term in order to not get executed. We are living in dangerous times.

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        Don’t concede a single square millimeter to those treasonous racist scum. The union must be preserved at all costs.