• lemmelemmy@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    So all this shit stirred from substack. Why fuck substack didn’t remove such a racist article from the beginning? I don’t care about how much internet has “useful” to human kind. Its just a tool mass manipulation and disinformation without any regulation.

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    Every single member of the aristocracy and political leaders of both the Confederacy and apartheid South Africa should have been very publicly executed. And said executions celebrated with annual drinking holidays. We’d be in a much better spot globally

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      These movements did a lot of work to blur the line between national identity and the fascist racist agenda of the day. I think it’s as important to clarify to everyone that South African doesn’t mean apartheid supporter and German doesn’t mean Nazi.

      I have a friend whose dad is a German WW2 survivor. Whenever my childhood friend talks about Nazis he calls them Germany… Which is so upsetting because today’s Germans might have some things to say about that association!

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        I did specifically say the leaders and aristocracy of apartheid South Africa, which I would hope to your point implies something different than a citizen of South Africa.

        But if they sympathize with Rhodesia they should catch the noose

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        As a South African, there could’ve been at least some punishment for some people. Basically everyone was forgiven, and presented with the opportunity to learn lessons by themselves and evolve. And 32 years later, Afrikaner farmers are trying to convince Trump that there’s a white genocide and that they’re all precious little victims.

        I know that conservatives have a hard time learning anything and doing any evolving (if they could they wouldn’t be conservative) but maybe it would’ve helped if at least some examples were made. Because ‘love and light’ and ‘forgive and forget’ didn’t work.

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          Oh yeah I’m 100% for consequences and proportionate punishment for people who hurt others, especially those who commit genocide.

          Part of the conservative counter culture is to not only minimalise and invalidate accounts of wrong doing, but to confuse the situation so much that consequences can never reach the offenders. That’s why I think it’s important to specifically de-couple nationality from accusations of wrong doing.

          It’ll be the same in a few years when the equivalent of Nuremberg Trials happens for American fascists. We should not assume everyone in the United States was a MAGA, but there must be consequences for that group and they must fit the [international] crime.

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      He was investingated for plagiarism by Liverpool University, where the degree in question was from, and they found his work flawed in attributions and references, but not full on plagiarism.

      The current media storm came from a self a owed race realist who says “in a meritocracy there’d be no black people at university” stirring it up repeating the claims he was found innocent of until he quit his job and killed himself.

      Not to say he’s blameless, the errors and failings in attribution and referencing are not the be all and end all, but a lot of the other claims about things he made up - raising money for charity, running the marathons - this article fact checks and comes down on more likely true, or closer to true than not.

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        He was also investigated at Cambridge, but they concluded it was racially motivated so didn’t complete the process, despite concerns of his colleagues and students.

        Times Higher Education was preparing a major investigative story into his fabrication of medical study subjects and plagiarism of his students (allegedly with 68-pages worth of copied material including typos intact), but Arday hit them with a SLAPP action via the high-end law firm Carter-Ruck last autumn and they spiked the story.

        There are currently three investigations ongoing, at Jesus College, Cambridge University and Queens University Belfast, and calls for an investigation into the first investigation at Cambridge.

        In short, it’s a whole big mess, and it may take months or years to straighten out.

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          It is a total cluster fuck.

          And siccing Carter-Fuck on TES isn’t a good look.

          That it became a mainstream media circus focused on sensationalism made it all harder to dig to the truth.

          Hopefully people (or at least the left and left adjacent folk) can approach it as a non-partisan issue.

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      His last ditch claim was that it wasn’t plagiarism, it was autistic mimicry, which is an insult to autistic individuals everywhere.

      Looks like a conman who couldn’t handle reality catching up with him.

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        That’s the thing that perplexes me - I’ve not been following this closely but it sounds like he was a compulsive liar and grifter whose actions caught up with him. Doesn’t seem like someone to rally behind.

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          We should be able to deal with plagirism without hounding (only black) plagarists until they commit suicide.

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              But you said you’ve not been following closely but you’re closely regurgitating the far right propaganda character assassination.

              Do better FFS

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                Based on the other comments here it’s messy, which was my takeaway. My comment was more about making him a figure to rally behind.

                Not appreciating the insinuation I’m lying though, maybe I should go off myself as well, eh?

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          He was investingated for plagiarism by Liverpool University, where the degree in question was from, and they found his work flawed in attributions and references, but not full on plagiarism.

          The current media storm came from a self a owed race realist who says “in a meritocracy there’d be no black people at university” stirring it up repeating the claims he was found innocent of until he quit his job and killed himself.

          Not to say he’s blameless, the errors and failings in attribution and referencing are not the be all and end all, but a lot of the other claims about things he made up - raising money for charity, running the marathons - this article fact checks and comes down on more likely true, or closer to true than not.