• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The democrat party apparatus relies upon operatives all throughout the smaller, local administrative roles–establishment insiders in the pockets of the party aristocracy–to rig the primary elections from the ground on upward against progressive challengers

    If it was 2024 you’d be making a lot of sense…

    But you’re 18 months behind and saying all that a few months before the midterms…

    Kind of makes your ignorance suspicious when you “care” enough to type that much

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      12 hours ago

      I think you and the person you replied to are both at the core making the same point, even if from different initial states. To quote the previous:

      The only way to strip that capability away from them is to rip out the incumbents IN THE PRIMARIES all the way down to where you live. And the way you do that is:

      You DON’T just vote in the national scale elections; rather, you instead vote in EVERY LOCAL ELECTION TOO

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        5 hours ago

        Yeah, and if it was primary season and they were telling people to vote, we’d be agreeing…

        But primaries are over and the midterms are a few months away…

        So all that person is doing, is hurting Dem turnout, when we need it the most

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      14 hours ago

      We’re in this mess because people have had a terrible habit of ignoring the midterms and only focusing on the presidential election every four years.

      How naive of you, failing to realize that now, as we approach the midterms, is exactly when our attention is needed most.

      I, for one, would like to encourage people to strive for a better outcome than “just as shitty as all the previous times” for once.

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        14 hours ago

        How naive of you, failing to realize that now, as we approach the midterms, is exactly when our attention is needed most.

        The time to pick a candidate was in the primary, which is why I was telling people to vote in primaries…

        We’re past the primaries now, in case you haven’t noticed.

        If you’re going to try and advocate for a third party candidate over a Dem in a specific race go fucking find that candidate first, don’t just shit on Dems and hope something better magically fucking appears

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          14 hours ago

          I will take this L, actually.

          The primaries are in fact behind us, so I accept that asking people to focus on primaries will do nothing right now.

          I also regret that I spoke so disrespectfully. I want to change that habit so I must acknowledge that it’s something I have done, and something I want to stop doing. I didn’t bring anything useful to the conversation jumping to interpret your response as an attack; irrespective of intention, you deserved more grace from me than I provided.

          I apologize. If you want me to, I will delete what I wrote. Just let me know and I will. My default position is to keep it up to preserve the context of the conversation if anyone else reads it.

          There are far worse people who are far less deserving of respect. You are rational and actually attempting to be constructive which is well worth recognition.

          I would like to stop taking respectable people for granted, especially now that I end up wading through a cesspit of braindead conservatoid pedophile-worshipping subhuman scum most of the time. Even if it were just on PRINCIPLE i should be treating literally anyone else markedly better than THEM.