• jsheradin@fedia.io
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    It’s a shame that none of these privacy oriented/right to repair phones have a headphone jack.

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    Very curious to see the linux support.

    I will be buying on day one to test this out and get an image ready.

    I’m really grateful for all the people that donated so the price is partially covered.

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      The CEO came out saying they were happy they managed to shrink the size since FP4 so I doubt that’s in the cards

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    This triggers me. I mean, it’s a nice proof of concept and a small skit for the rest of the industry by regularly announce and show that it is possible to produce repairable and somehow better smartphones. It’s like selling organic fruit and vegetables on the local farmers market and attract “conscious” folks that are already trying not to buy food from the grocery store.

    Do they think their project, their vision and business model will loose the relatively small attention from a broader range of (possible) costumers if they just pause and use more capacities to support the devices already on the market? Do they fear cuts in their supply chain, because its difficult to re-establish it once the people producing for/with them turn away and work for others?

    With the right to repair and othe regulations their (former?) unique features will become a obstactle to persist in the market in which others, the mainstream manufacturers, are getting stronger.

    I do not need a new smatphone every two years, not even a somehow fair one. Just produce spare parts for all your models and release everything related as open source, making it possible to run even longer with new(est) android versions or just Linux.

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      Repairability does not mean stagnation, if they keep offering spare parts for older models i would want them to produce phones with the best hardware possible as fast as possible.

      Why would introducing new models retract from the mission? if spare parts are continued to be offered existing owners lose nothing?

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        i would want them to produce phones with the best hardware possible as fast as possible.

        Why? For what? Ongoing tech “improvements” like this are irresponsible nowadays. As of today we aleady accomplished much progress as humans, but the need to pause, rest, recover urgently is constantly challenged.

        Let us break the cycle and finally become sufficient. Especially but not exclusively within consumer electronics.

        if spare parts are continued to be offered existing owners lose nothing?

        We lose finite resources, the ones of the world and our own. Including spare time. We exchange it for a distraction from reality in 8K and labor that just powers the hamster wheels which probably most of the people didnt want to enter.

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          Why? For what? Ongoing tech “improvements” like this are irresponsible nowadays. As of today we aleady accomplished much progress as humans, but the need to pause, rest, recover urgently is constantly challenged.

          Why and for what? because 50% more memory is a huge improvement, waydroid on a 8GB budget gets tight, while it fits much more comfortable in 12.

          I’m not sure what to say to your other points as its a ideology i don’t subscribe to, imo stagnation will get us nowhere.

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            I am not entirely sure if we talk about persistent or volatile memory here (english is not my first language, if its persistent the term storage fits better).

            What I do not get is why there is a need for more in the first place? What makes waydroid so “hungry”?

            I do not pledge for stagnation, but as progress comes with a price, I do see no need to run forward, hustling even. Instead of going slower and catch up with the people who do not even have internet access nowadays, but want it. Or the ones who are using stuff thats too slow or small for others. Lets try to align access and usage of technology worldwide. Everybody deservers progress and the experience of the advantages technology is offering.

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              We are talking about the volatile memory here, the LPDDR5 DRAM

              Waydroid is a android container for wayland systems, what makes it so memory intensive that its basically running an full android userland, which normally is fine but since now you’re running it atop your exisitng userland the total memory usage is much higher since now you are running 2 userlands instead of just one.

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      Fairphone already does pretty much what you want - keep spares available for an insane time. They don’t have spares for the 3/3+ anymore but for the 4 which was released like 5 years ago.

      And we don’t know why the 6+ exists yet, it could be a simple stupid reason like Qualcomm deciding they don’t want to produce the old SoC for as long anymore.

      Personally the fact that we can even get what is basically ‘just’ a mainboard upgrade for a smartphone does speak for Fairphone IMHO

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      Sad that a company that markets itself on being more ethical then the competitors is still on Musk’s X…