cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/72685299
I discovered this after upgrading our instance yesterday, which also upgraded all frontends to their latest versions as well. After I did, our Tesseract frontend stopped working and I noticed immediately as it’s been my primary for a while. Initially I thought it was an API version mismatch, but no, it was much worse.
Someone pointed out that the developer of the frontend added an explicit hidden and unmodifiably blacklist which includes any and all instances to the left of Kissinger. There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.
When you use tesseract to connect to one blacklisted such instance , you just get a message informing you that Tesseract is “incompatible with that instance” which leads one to think of a technical issue, like an API mismatch, rather than the dev being an opinionated coward.
Isn’t it funny how all the software developed by turbolibs, like Piefed and Tesseract, end up with hidden control mechanisms from developers who think they know better than everyone else? That they don’t just think they deserve to tell you what you should think, but they should manipulate you to think it? Isn’t it funny how libs go on about how bad it is to support lemmy due to the ideology of the devs behind it, and yet lemmy has 0 opinions as a software? It does make one think…
Anyway, I forked - it as one does - and disabled the blacklist, but since this is a massively ideologically compromised software, I’ll doubt I’ll keep this frontend up after Lemmy 1.0. I think we’ll bring up mlmym again now that someone’s maintaining it again.
Doesn’t piefed also do OCR on every image to try and detect if it’s a 4chan screenshot and then pretend it had an error when uploading? Sneaky lil shits.
Oh if they do that’s great, the main dev of piefed went on a hissy fit because other instances used AI tooling, for them to be doing the same is just perfect. Gotta love hypocrites
OCR and LLMs are the same thing apparently.
I keep hearing so much shit that piefed does but also see a ton of people either ignoring it or praising it. Does piefed have some sorta propaganda team or something?
And here I am, going WTF is a piefed?
A platform similar to Lemmy, but with an explicit ideological stance against communists, who are the main Lemmy devs (and the Lemmy devs, because of their belief in communism, adhere more closely to FOSS and federation, with less hard-coded bias as PieFed).
For those to lazy to make block lists?
More ideologically driven, the Dev of PieFed wants to reduce exposure to leftists.
Tankies specifically. Not all leftists are tankies, stop pretending otherwise
If I were to give my own definition of what constitutes a tankie, I’d say it’s anyone who defends existing socialist states, past or present. Those socialist states are generally understood to be the USSR, PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, DPRK, GDR, etc. The defense tankies give is not in accepting both bourgeois historiography as accurate but justified, but instead in directly combatting bourgeois historiography. Tankie is also a pejorative for these people, used to convey the strawman of the person that believes the lies of the Red Scare but believes them to be justified.
In that case, I am definitely a tankie. I spend a good deal of time talking about socialism both past and present, and arguing for how we can expand that movement and carry it to the future. I am definitely a defender of socialist states, I just don’t believe the common allegations such as “100 million were killed by communism” are at all accurate. I don’t think you’ll find someone who believes the 100 million number but also thinks it’s good and justified.
It’s also useful to understand it in this manner because it explains why even anarchists and liberals are called “tankie.” The throughline about defending existing socialism is the central identifier of a tankie, and the use of tankie to dismiss those who defend socialism as it exists in the real world is also covered by this understanding.
Lmao just read the readme of the project and got all the red flags I need
Media Bias Fact Check (MBFC) Integration
I can forgive someone with a passing exposure to it not knowing, but MBFC is notorious for having biased rankings.
The regular example I use is the Guardian being placed on the same factuality ranking as breitbart (the nazi rag), but it’s not one case, there’s a general right-wing bias in the rankings.
The developer of this project is very clearly just trying to put their finger on the views of their users
Amazing how these projects keep killing themselves by alienating huge portions of their userbase. Hard to survive in a FOSS environment by being extremely reactionary.
Lemmy has managed to survive in spite of the tankies that develop it. I guess federation works in the end.
Lemmy is surviving because communists are ideologically coherent and committed to FOSS and federation. The communism is a huge plus, and communists make up a huge portion of the userbase.
Stop pretending that tankies and communists/leftists/whatever are interchangeable words.
They are not.
If I were to give my own definition of what constitutes a tankie, I’d say it’s anyone who defends existing socialist states, past or present. Those socialist states are generally understood to be the USSR, PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, DPRK, GDR, etc. The defense tankies give is not in accepting both bourgeois historiography as accurate but justified, but instead in directly combatting bourgeois historiography. Tankie is also a pejorative for these people, used to convey the strawman of the person that believes the lies of the Red Scare but believes them to be justified.
In that case, I am definitely a tankie. I spend a good deal of time talking about socialism both past and present, and arguing for how we can expand that movement and carry it to the future. I am definitely a defender of socialist states, I just don’t believe the common allegations such as “100 million were killed by communism” are at all accurate. I don’t think you’ll find someone who believes the 100 million number but also thinks it’s good and justified.
It’s also useful to understand it in this manner because it explains why even anarchists and liberals are called “tankie.” The throughline about defending existing socialism is the central identifier of a tankie, and the use of tankie to dismiss those who defend socialism as it exists in the real world is also covered by this understanding.
Try a relevant reply next time dude
I already did.
Me: don’t equate tankies and all leftists.
You: rants for paragraphs about your own (incorrect) definition of tankie.
Yeah, no, you didn’t. More tankie bullshit, shocker
Ah yes, the famously leftist and trans-friendly instance: maga.place
Deliberately missing Blahaj.zone?
Huh?
You can see the list, you focused on one shitty instance and ignored countless leftist and trans friendly ones in attempt to discredit the issue.
The fact that it’s on the list debunks your implication that it was an anti-leftist and anti-trans block.
I wasn’t ignoring anything. But you have a history of maliciously mislabelling people as anti-left and anti-trans, so worth pointing out that you’re doing it here too.
It’s a crosspost, I didn’t make the post nor the title.
Make up all the excuses and deflections you want. There is zero reason for Blahaj.zone to be on this list except blatant transphobia.
Having a look, your mod log is pages long of bad faith and trolling. Seeing as you’re a single user instance and defending transphobia right now it’s probably best to just go ahead and not with bother with your nonsense any further.
defending transphobia right now
It is amazing that you offered up a textbook example of what I accused you of right here.
Absolutely nowhere have I defended transphobia. It’s disgusting how often you try to discredit people using that tactic. It totally devalues real criticism of actual transphobia that hurts real people.
And if we’re comparing modlogs, apparently I’m in good company with a racist, violent troll.
It is amazing that you offered up a textbook example of what I accused you of right here.
You’re accusing them of telling the truth about you.
Self awareness will help you understanding why you’re in the wrong here
The fact that it’s on the list debunks your implication that it was an anti-leftist and anti-trans block.
Explain how blocking a single instance means someone is incapable of making a different block for transphobic reasons.
Why? I didn’t make any such claim.
I literally quoted you claiming you had debunked the claim the block was transphobic. All you did was show a MAGA instance had also been blocked. Explain.
Sorry they blocked the maga instance you agree with about everything at all times in addition to the left and trans instances you hate.
Huh?
I can’t make you smart enough to comprehend what I wrote.
Pretty sure it’s deliberate, that person is a well known troll and contrarian.
Yeah, I learnt that after this interaction with them. Ended up de-federating their instance entirely, can’t see anything good coming from them in the future. And to think this is the sort of person moderating piefed.social’s Fediverse comm.
Good call, I don’t see anything good coming from them in the future either. It’s definitely concerning that this person is a mod on piefed.social, makes me feel like people need to stay away from that instance and its communities. Also I wonder if Ada should be made aware of this person, considering their prolific history of acting in bad faith.
It’s rather telling they didn’t end up on the tesseract filters
Telling of what?
Looks like deeply agenda driven anti-cognition with a side of insane respectability politics in an effort to appeal to other people who already think like them. It’s really too bad you can’t truly block people on fediverse, because that seems like the exact type of goal that, even if you don’t feed that troll, it still gets a quip in that appeals to their audience, energizing it and stroking the fire.
They’re also prone to stalk and spams users dms. But yeah it’s a wonderful example of how great piefed.social is since they’re one of the mods there if their fediverse comm
Cool slander. Got reciepts?
Because I do, for you following me around and downvoting everything. The thing you’re accusing me of.
Tell me, what “moderation” have I done?
Edit: annnnd there’s the downvote and run away without a shred of evidence. What a pathetic coward.
Every accusation is a confession with these snarkers.
Stay mad and keep making shit up about me, I guess.
That is some wild projection.
🫂
What moderation have I done on that comm. Can you tell me?
Do you have anything to back up your slander?
Cool slander.
I noticed this post on Mastodon, wanted to open it in the threadiverse, which nowadays I usually do through Piefed.social.
- Copied link
- In Piefed, Search > Retrieve remote post
- “Post not found”. Me: what? Did the author or mod delete it already???
- Clicked on the link to try, it opened on the native instance (lemmy.world) just fine! Neither author nor mod has deleted it. I read the article.
- After, I investigate a bit more. On Piefed.social, I am subscribed to !fediverse@lemmy.world , I can open that /c & can see posts there. But not this post. It’s missing.
- Come to my Lemmy instance (lemmy.ca) with Alex front-end, confirm I can see the post from here. Twice even.
So why can’t I see it on Piefed.social??? Can I not rely on Piefed.social? Censorship, or just an innocent federation issue?
What the fuck is going on with Piefed lately.
Lead Dev is a crusader for establishment liberalism, essentially. Hates conservatives but also hates leftists. This puts them at odds with much of the fediverse, who lean more left than liberal.
It’s definitely funny in an ironic kind of way that Piefed began as at least partly a reaction towards the politics of the Lemmy devs, but ended up themselves doing the very thing they feared (ie: letting politics affect the code). Meanwhile Lemmy still has never suffered from this, as far as I know.
I’m definitely biased as I’m a communist myself, but I’d argue this is more reflective of the politics of both sets of devs. Lemmy devs truly believe in the communist principles underlying the FOSS, federated project they have, while Piefed is unapologetically biased against that and towards liberalism. In other words, the principles speak for themselves in both projects.
I’m a communist myself
Well fuck you. May all the people who died in the concentration camps, in famines, cultural purges, or just simply shot dead at the border crossings, haunt you tonight.
I’m no expert, but it sounds like they were killed by authoritarianism, not communism. I don’t think communism requires concentration camps, famines, or cultural purges.
Just “re-education”
Piefed.social is run by an admin with similar views on censoring leftists as the Tesseract devs. There was a whole fiasco about it a few months back, where the lead Dev of Piefed kept lists of Leftists and other users they permabanned for pointing out issues with Piefed’s code.
OP is on that list.
Censoring leftists? No, he censors anything to the right of left more than anything. Maybe he censors the faaaar left as well, but anything “conservative”, right wing, or centrist is censored.
Liberalism is right wing, and is allowed. Anything to the left of liberalism, from anarchism to socialism to communism, is censored. It’s clear as day that Piefed is right-wing at the developer level. The fact that the far right is also censored does not make it left wing.
It’s right wing yet it censors every remotely right wing/conservative source?
It doesn’t, though, outlets like BBC, the New York Times, etc. are allowed.
The New York Times is a left wing publication through and through, what are you talking about?
The BBC is centrist but left leaning. Definitely not right wing.
New York Times is precisely as left wing as liberalism. You’ve been raised to implicitly think of liberalism as the “normal amount of left”, and that is not accurate. That’s my assumption at any rate, because I was raised that way and carried around a similar misconception.
Both are right-wing. Both uphold capitalism, imperialism, and Zionist genocide. Leftism begins at socialism.
Which wars have the NYT’s been against, again? Which policy of W’s were they against again?
I agree with Cowbees definition, but the NYT’s isn’t left wing BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION of left wing.
