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    Then I research from known references starting with Wikipedia and using the sources at the bottom of the page to expand my research out further.

    The entirety of how LLMs work is token prediction based on the entire collective of human creation, that is not research, that is not understanding. that is an over engineered autocomplete. Guessing what the next token is in a string of characters is not the same knowledge of the topic. How much does the Epic of Gilgamesh and the complete works of Shakespeare and the writings of Adolf Hitler and the unhinged Tumblr posts of every Susie, Harry, and Jillian and all of the statistical models born from vectorizing all of that into a billion dimensional vectorspace have any impact on the final output, how does any of that have anything to do with any medical or legal inquiries?

    Ive already explained multiple times how a glorified autocomplete predicting words is not knowledge. If you’re going to keep sealioning I’m done with this conversation.

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      Ive already explained multiple times how a glorified autocomplete predicting words is not knowledge.

      Not on your last two comment pages. Do you have a link?

      Guessing what the next token is in a string of characters is not the same knowledge of the topic

      How do you write? Do you know your entire sentences and paragraphs before you write them down?

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        So you’re just gonna keep sealioning, exactly as I predicted. Got it, glad to establish this conversation is going to go nowhere. You can repeat my last handful of comments in this thread. I dont have time to waste entertaining your asinine questioning. You’ve been nothing but fake polite in order to waste all of our time.

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          sealioning

          It’s you who uses words statistically. You said “explained multiple times”. If you did, finding a link to an old comment doesn’t take time. You use this big word without understanding it.

          How do you write? Do you know your entire sentences and paragraphs before you write them down?

          A yes or no would have been a perfect answer. You wrote the long comment to avoid writing a no.

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              My comment was a counter-example. The situation is similar but not the same. It could be considered a statistical match.

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                  Knowledge is not statistical or random

                  If you write five articles about the topic or any topic, will they be the same?

                  Sealioning:

                  Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity

                  I pointed out that your knowledge has a random element, too.

                  You fall back to

                  already explained multiple times how a glorified autocomplete predicting words is not knowledge.

                  I am not saying that LLM are not statistical. I am saying that your knowledge is statistical, too.

                  There is no request for evidence but I would be interested in understanding why “predicting words is not knowledge”.

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                    So you’re just gonna keep sealioning and not take the hint. I’m done discussing, if you’re incapable of reading my previous comments on the discussion, then leave, stop commenting. This comment section has no room for bad faith sophistry with no relevant substance to the discussion at hand.