• underisk@lemmy.ml
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    I don’t know of anybody who could be accurately described as “tankie” who would be against anything he’s done. They might say it doesn’t go far enough, but I wouldn’t describe that as “butthurt”. Where are you encountering comments like that?

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      I’m not the same commenter as the one you’ve replied to, but I’ve definitely seen tankies shitting on people who support Mamdani. I didn’t save any of those comments so I can’t directly point to any right now, but many of your comrades over on .ml are continuing to sow dissent on the left; pushing anti-voting rhetoric; and suggesting that even Mamdani doesn’t pass the purity test. It’s unhelpful at best and actively helping Republicans at worst.

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        Honestly, I would not be surprised if something like 80% of those that identify as tankies online are just paid actors working to try to depress Democratic turnout.

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        My favorite are the ones who have been like “He hasn’t said a single word about Palestine since the election!” that I was seeing a few months ago. Even more hilarious with his recent very public statements.

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          What’s hilarious about his recent public statements?

          He literally ran on the idea that he would arrest netanyahu, and his recent statement was “he’s a war criminal, but whoopsie I actually can’t arrest him, sorry”

          That his very political backtracking is hilarious to you is very concerning. He’s not a horrible mayor, Americans would be way better off with people like him in power, but of course socialist will shit on him as he maintains the imperial status quo. He’ll talk about Palestine and keep using it as rhetoric, but so far all he’s done is call netanyahu a war criminal and say he can’t arrest him, and he is working very closely with several Zionists on his team.

          The problem with liberals is they worship individuals instead of ideals and ideas. You can’t criticize mamdani without being called a maga or tankie, there is no room for discussion, he’s perfect and can do no wrong because “his moral compass points to good”.

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        My “comrades” are like people who signed up to the same email server, were not all familiar with each other. There’s not some meeting or private chat I can bring the matter to.

        Is there anybody of significance, or significant number of people, saying these things? Or are we letting the trolls dictate the worst takes for everyone?

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          https://aussie.zone/post/34009816/23629202

          https://aussie.zone/post/34788654/24037514

          https://aussie.zone/post/34745780/24008930

          https://aussie.zone/post/34745780/24008953

          Just a handful of examples I found lazily searching for a couple of minutes - and that’s only specific to criticising Mamdani. If you want a list of .ml users encouraging people in the US to stop voting altogether, that list would be much longer.

          My “comrades” are like people who signed up to the same email server, were not all familiar with each other.

          Of course you don’t personally know everyone from .ml but you’ve been here long enough to know exactly the kind of person that maintains and posts from an account on .ml. Tankies spouting No True Scotsman, anti-voting, leftist-dividing, Russia/PRC dick-sucking rhetoric are par for the course. It’s why as soon as someone comments from a .ml domain the rest of us collecvitely sigh and brace ourselves before we read what you have to say.

          I’m not denying that there are reasonable and rational people from .ml - you yourself seem to be one of them - but there is so much bad faith whataboutism and tankie nonsense that people like yourself who continue to maintain a .ml account end up getting lumped in with them.

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            I have been blocking .ml for a couple of days now after having been argued with in bad faith, having words put into my mouth and basically having been declared one of “Hitlers Helpers” for just talking about my lived experience with the GDR and being a social democrat instead of a communist.

            Lemmy in its entirety has become so much more pleasant and the amount of posts and comments that go “voting makes no sense at all” that I see has plummeted to basically nothing. It’s very refreshing.