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In Canada you can turn right on reds everywhere except Quebec. I spent 1 weekend in montreal and I saw 2 accidents. Both caused by left turn drivers pulling out into oncoming traffic despite many pedestrians crossing in their way.
GF and I were the pedestrians crossing the 2nd time. I saw the mouth breather pull up and I just grabbed my gf and boogied. 15 seconds later BANG!
Your info is out of date. Right turn on on red is legal in Québec sine 2003 except on the island of Montreal and in places where it’s indicated. The stupid PQ wanted to do like the Americans and the ROC so they allowed it everywhere except the Montreal island.
And as a cyclist and pedestrian, I hate that so much. I live in Montreal and can immediately feel less safe as soon as I get off the island. Lots of motorists will try to turn right when pedestrians and cyclists can go straight. With right on red, there is not a moment when a pedestrian ever have a safe phase to cross. They always have to deal with car drivers trying to zigzag between legally crossing pedestrians.
I hate this change so much. I wish it was never made legal in the first place.
Do pedestrians get a dedicated cross phase on the island? Don’t they still have to wait for green which also gives the vehicle a chance to turn (when clear)? Or are these specialized right turn lights?
We have a few in Toronto but I can count on one hand how many of those we have.
There are dedicated crossing phases in select places, usually when foot traffic is pretty high, but they are an exception. They are mostly concentrated downtown.
Most other crossing have an “advanced walk signal” where pedestrians are given a head start, then it’s a “free for all”. Hence the example of the person I was replying to. Usually pedestrians don’t care about the countdown and continue crossing as long as it’s still possible, so some impatient car drivers often push their way through while turning. There are also a lot of specialized traffic lights for turns. It’s kind of a mix of everything, depending on the intersection. The short answer would probably be “it’s complicated”.
However I prefer that to how it works in Québec City. They have dedicated phases for pedestrians everywhere, but cars can still turn right on red during the pedestrian phases. So as a pedestrian, you can’t legally cross when it’s green, you have to wait an eternity for all cars to cross in all directions, then you can cross in all directions at once, but motorists can also just push themselves into the pedestrian phase to turn right. I don’t like walking in Québec City for that reason.
In Canada you can turn right on reds everywhere except Quebec. I spent 1 weekend in montreal and I saw 2 accidents. Both caused by left turn drivers pulling out into oncoming traffic despite many pedestrians crossing in their way.
GF and I were the pedestrians crossing the 2nd time. I saw the mouth breather pull up and I just grabbed my gf and boogied. 15 seconds later BANG!
Your info is out of date. Right turn on on red is legal in Québec sine 2003 except on the island of Montreal and in places where it’s indicated. The stupid PQ wanted to do like the Americans and the ROC so they allowed it everywhere except the Montreal island.
And as a cyclist and pedestrian, I hate that so much. I live in Montreal and can immediately feel less safe as soon as I get off the island. Lots of motorists will try to turn right when pedestrians and cyclists can go straight. With right on red, there is not a moment when a pedestrian ever have a safe phase to cross. They always have to deal with car drivers trying to zigzag between legally crossing pedestrians.
I hate this change so much. I wish it was never made legal in the first place.
Do pedestrians get a dedicated cross phase on the island? Don’t they still have to wait for green which also gives the vehicle a chance to turn (when clear)? Or are these specialized right turn lights?
We have a few in Toronto but I can count on one hand how many of those we have.
There are dedicated crossing phases in select places, usually when foot traffic is pretty high, but they are an exception. They are mostly concentrated downtown.
Most other crossing have an “advanced walk signal” where pedestrians are given a head start, then it’s a “free for all”. Hence the example of the person I was replying to. Usually pedestrians don’t care about the countdown and continue crossing as long as it’s still possible, so some impatient car drivers often push their way through while turning. There are also a lot of specialized traffic lights for turns. It’s kind of a mix of everything, depending on the intersection. The short answer would probably be “it’s complicated”.
However I prefer that to how it works in Québec City. They have dedicated phases for pedestrians everywhere, but cars can still turn right on red during the pedestrian phases. So as a pedestrian, you can’t legally cross when it’s green, you have to wait an eternity for all cars to cross in all directions, then you can cross in all directions at once, but motorists can also just push themselves into the pedestrian phase to turn right. I don’t like walking in Québec City for that reason.