Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said Rep. Haley Stevens (D-Mich.) has “been with the Republicans” since Congress returned, after the Michigan Democrat endorsed former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) in the midterms.
“She’s been with the Republicans ever since she’s come back. So she’s been on the Republican side of the aisle,” Ocasio-Cortez said during an appearance on “The Don Lemon Show” that aired Thursday.
“This is just the epitome of a certain kind of transactional politics,” she added. “And it’s really sad.”
This place sucks for political discussion. We finally have a substantial Dem majority and all these people want to do is whine and complain about it instead of finding common ground with the huge number of moderate Dems we just elected.
Lemmy is 90% basement dwellers who have lost touch with reality at this point. If you suggest any kind of realism, or god forbid optimism, they’ll lay you out for it.
We have a substantial majority and that’s reason to be optimistic, yes.
But it’s not reason to become complacent and cater to milquetoast centrism that only intends to appease the fascists while placating the masses and delivering nothing substantial.
We have a majority. We need to use it to deliver results with benefits people can feel, otherwise we won’t keep it, and we’ll backslide back into republican majorities again where they can continue furthering their destructive agenda.
These cycles have been going on as long as I’ve been alive. It’s time to break that cycle. We need change, and we need it now, and if we don’t succeed in that, not only is democracy as we know it going to die, but also society and the planet itself are going to die with it.
“This place is bad for political discussion because people don’t already agree with me.”
My comment was literally about trying to find common ground with people I disagree with. I’m not a moderate Dem.
It’s impossible to have a discussion when nearly every comment is just aggressively dooming about things that aren’t even happening.
They’re doing do because we’ve seen this song and dance before. We know what moderate Dems stand for and we know what they do when they’re in charge. You might disagree, but you can’t demand that people accept your disagreement without you backing it up with evidence and expect to be taken seriously.
And here we have a prime example of lemmy political discourse.
I can’t help it when this is literally what they’re saying.
Yes doubling down doesn’t illustrate their point at all.
I mean I’m not going to disbelieve my eyes for the sake of good-natured debate so sure?
“This is a great place for a political discussion because everyone agrees with me!”
See? That kind of bad faith both-sides bullshit works both ways.
And it proves the point being made
Except this is literally what they’re saying. They’re saying Lemmy is bad for political discussion and their exhibit A is that people disagree with them about this one thing. They might have more substantial reasons but those are not written in their reply. There’s nothing there for a neutral party to look at and think “this person is right.” Also for the record people here don’t always (or even most of the time) agree with me.
You’re trying to argue that a single comment should be used to characterize all of Lemmy, just because it’s convenient for your particular position right now, and you’re arguing that to the wrong person.
Because I’m not an idiot.
I legitimately have no idea what you’re talking about. Puts on asshole hat you might not be an idiot, but you might want to work on your reading comprehension.
If that were true, you would’ve walked away long ago. But the fact that you’re still here, trolling, proves that you’re engaged purely in bad faith in order to continue arguing with me for no other reason then, I suppose I hurt your feelings?
Grow up, get over it, and move the fuck on.
The fediverse largely has no understanding whatsoever of US civics. It’s fucking ridiculous what idiots here think about how the government functions. Most of them just want the US to collapse not realizing there’s a good chance they or someone they care about dies when that happens. Cuz it won’t happen quiet like. It’ll take down everything it can with it.