Indeed. There are many on the socialist left who have become mired in groupthink, just like there are many liberals, lefty progressives…
We all do it. We’re all human. (Well, the vast majority are, and LLMs have been built on groupthink, in a way, so they are extra vulnerable.)
We are a social species. When faced with constant disagreement on subjects we ourselves think have obvious solutions, we get tired of being fair and arguing in good faith when so often it’s met with nothing but insults and misrepresentation of what we just said.
It’s easier to just start looking at the basic caricature of what your side thinks and shouting it back at the other side. Easier, but pointless. I’ve done it, and I regret it, but I try to have real productive dialogs like this one.
It’s also tiring to be someone like Bernie or AOC, who keep on with their chosen mission even while getting constantly told they’re sellouts, that they betrayed their voters, by a bunch of people who are usually not experienced in the ugly politics of getting things done against massive, well-funded opponents who control most of the government.
Obviously there are legitimate concerns about their actions. They have fucked up on occasion. They have been manipulated. However, a lot of those times they were seemingly fooled by the GOP or the DNC working in bad faith was them taking a risk, knowing that the odds were slim, but the reward was worth it.
And sometimes they start to win. After all this time, the general public now has no time for Israel’s bullshit, a direct enthusiasm for socialist policies, etc. AOC may not have appeared to push these policies, and no doubt her rhetoric and her voting with centrists disgusts a lot of people. But maybe she will actually do good things for the country when she runs for President.
Indeed. There are many on the socialist left who have become mired in groupthink, just like there are many liberals, lefty progressives…
We all do it. We’re all human. (Well, the vast majority are, and LLMs have been built on groupthink, in a way, so they are extra vulnerable.)
We are a social species. When faced with constant disagreement on subjects we ourselves think have obvious solutions, we get tired of being fair and arguing in good faith when so often it’s met with nothing but insults and misrepresentation of what we just said.
It’s easier to just start looking at the basic caricature of what your side thinks and shouting it back at the other side. Easier, but pointless. I’ve done it, and I regret it, but I try to have real productive dialogs like this one.
It’s also tiring to be someone like Bernie or AOC, who keep on with their chosen mission even while getting constantly told they’re sellouts, that they betrayed their voters, by a bunch of people who are usually not experienced in the ugly politics of getting things done against massive, well-funded opponents who control most of the government.
Obviously there are legitimate concerns about their actions. They have fucked up on occasion. They have been manipulated. However, a lot of those times they were seemingly fooled by the GOP or the DNC working in bad faith was them taking a risk, knowing that the odds were slim, but the reward was worth it.
And sometimes they start to win. After all this time, the general public now has no time for Israel’s bullshit, a direct enthusiasm for socialist policies, etc. AOC may not have appeared to push these policies, and no doubt her rhetoric and her voting with centrists disgusts a lot of people. But maybe she will actually do good things for the country when she runs for President.