After such a historic election turnaround, driven in no small part by African-American voters, do you really want to tell them that you don’t support the first Black House Speaker?
Yes, they supported Harris by 80% in 2024, but that is actually below their historic Democratic support levels, and in the Midterms they broke 90% for Democrats. source. That 10% margin clearly made a difference in both elections
I think Jeffries is in the bag, we’ll all have to find a way to make sure he doesnt shut out voices in the party he doesn’t want to hear. (Plus, Democrats have such a huge majority that they can stand 20 or 30 defectors and still have Jeffries be speaker).
I would focus your efforts on Schumer. Don’t ban me, but I do like him, and like how he’s represented NY. But he’s old, and needs to give way to younger leadership
On the other hand, I think many minorities have experienced what it feels like to work toward a goal, and have it pulled out from under them at the last minute, while watching others where that doesn’t seem to happen.
We wonder why Conservatives consistently vote against their own interests. This is due in large part to their leaders lying, and taking actions that contradict their words on the campaign trail. Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, we see behavior that, to the untrained eye, might look like Progressive leaders doing the exact same type of thing. Some might conclude that, no matter how much these progressives talk about inclusion, this progressive movement might not include people like them after all, when they see a key leader undone by “their own side”.
This movement might think this is all in service of a greater good, but you don’t control other people’s opinions, and what their opinions are of your motives. And they aren’t obligated to believe you, even if you turn out to be right. This could set your movement back years, if people you relied on to build that new majority think you don’t respect them, and abandon you in future elections.
Yeah I get it, that’s an important symbol. But is it really worth two more years of status quo leadership? Now, at the time when there’s both a means and a need for a bold push for progressive policy?
We’ve already had plenty of historic victories this election. And everyone who broke barriers isn’t focusing on their identity right now, they’re focusing on the work that needs to be done. Is Jeffries onboard with that, or is he only going to stand in the way? That’s the difference.
For what it’s worth, I’d support somebody like Wes Moore for the presidential primary in 2028. So let’s not make this about Jeffries’ identity. It’s about his policy, and his donors.
But yeah, if the speakership is already more or less set in stone, then I agree we need to focus on the battle we can win, and that’s the senate majority leader.
Jeffries hasn’t actually held the job yet. We are making assumptions about how he would lead. Assumptions based on some pretty good historical data, but assumptions nonetheless.
Schumer has already held the job (and lost it), so we have a better idea of what that would look like if we go there again.
After such a historic election turnaround, driven in no small part by African-American voters, do you really want to tell them that you don’t support the first Black House Speaker?
Yes, they supported Harris by 80% in 2024, but that is actually below their historic Democratic support levels, and in the Midterms they broke 90% for Democrats. source. That 10% margin clearly made a difference in both elections
I think Jeffries is in the bag, we’ll all have to find a way to make sure he doesnt shut out voices in the party he doesn’t want to hear. (Plus, Democrats have such a huge majority that they can stand 20 or 30 defectors and still have Jeffries be speaker).
I would focus your efforts on Schumer. Don’t ban me, but I do like him, and like how he’s represented NY. But he’s old, and needs to give way to younger leadership
I don’t think the black electorate is as stupid as you’re portraying them.
I think they want meaningful change and know Jefferies is a sellout to the very same monsters who oppress them.
On the other hand, I think many minorities have experienced what it feels like to work toward a goal, and have it pulled out from under them at the last minute, while watching others where that doesn’t seem to happen.
We wonder why Conservatives consistently vote against their own interests. This is due in large part to their leaders lying, and taking actions that contradict their words on the campaign trail. Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, we see behavior that, to the untrained eye, might look like Progressive leaders doing the exact same type of thing. Some might conclude that, no matter how much these progressives talk about inclusion, this progressive movement might not include people like them after all, when they see a key leader undone by “their own side”.
This movement might think this is all in service of a greater good, but you don’t control other people’s opinions, and what their opinions are of your motives. And they aren’t obligated to believe you, even if you turn out to be right. This could set your movement back years, if people you relied on to build that new majority think you don’t respect them, and abandon you in future elections.
Yeah I get it, that’s an important symbol. But is it really worth two more years of status quo leadership? Now, at the time when there’s both a means and a need for a bold push for progressive policy?
We’ve already had plenty of historic victories this election. And everyone who broke barriers isn’t focusing on their identity right now, they’re focusing on the work that needs to be done. Is Jeffries onboard with that, or is he only going to stand in the way? That’s the difference.
For what it’s worth, I’d support somebody like Wes Moore for the presidential primary in 2028. So let’s not make this about Jeffries’ identity. It’s about his policy, and his donors.
But yeah, if the speakership is already more or less set in stone, then I agree we need to focus on the battle we can win, and that’s the senate majority leader.
Jeffries hasn’t actually held the job yet. We are making assumptions about how he would lead. Assumptions based on some pretty good historical data, but assumptions nonetheless.
Schumer has already held the job (and lost it), so we have a better idea of what that would look like if we go there again.