This annoys me a lot with complaints about “vibe coding”. Like, I know how to do it, I just don’t feel like spending 5 hours building and debugging a script I am probably going to run once to convert a bunch of data. I just want the task done so I can move on and do actually enjoyable things.
I get all the arguments against AI “art” and “writing” and “music” etc, actual creative areas. But coding is just tedious boring nonsense 99% of the time. It’s not the same. Get the computer, to translate human words to computer words, and be done.
But coding is just tedious boring nonsense 99% of the time.
To anyone reading this far down, do not let people like this build the narrative that there is no joy in your hobby or profession. These are thieves trying to rob you of your enthusiasm for life.
I think the nuance is, having a computer write “hello world!” Is actually pretty cool when you think about it, and it’s only the beginning. When you get to the point of writing production solutions. Logging can seem pretty tedious, albeit useful.
Look, I normally take a very combative tone in conversations like these, but I want to emphasize, I genuinely, really love writing software. I’ve written my own libraries, libraries that already exist elsewhere, because I want to learn. What AI is doing to my industry makes me very sad.
I mostly enjoy the problem solving and a challenge.
Before LLMs often code wasn’t actually the hard part, it was more just a procedural break I got between the design or trying to figure out the best problem to solve, rather than just solving the obvious one.
So I always was looking to write the library that encoded conventions for the tradeoffs we want once and reuse it instead of writing bespoke code for every product, which seems to be the road more travelled.
So a multiplicative effect, so I can refocus on the hard parts sooner.
LLMs sure don’t help the tendency to solve the obvious problem and writing bespoke code every time though.
This annoys me a lot with complaints about “vibe coding”. Like, I know how to do it, I just don’t feel like spending 5 hours building and debugging a script I am probably going to run once to convert a bunch of data. I just want the task done so I can move on and do actually enjoyable things.
I get all the arguments against AI “art” and “writing” and “music” etc, actual creative areas. But coding is just tedious boring nonsense 99% of the time. It’s not the same. Get the computer, to translate human words to computer words, and be done.
To anyone reading this far down, do not let people like this build the narrative that there is no joy in your hobby or profession. These are thieves trying to rob you of your enthusiasm for life.
I think the nuance is, having a computer write “hello world!” Is actually pretty cool when you think about it, and it’s only the beginning. When you get to the point of writing production solutions. Logging can seem pretty tedious, albeit useful.
I do write production solutions.
Look, I normally take a very combative tone in conversations like these, but I want to emphasize, I genuinely, really love writing software. I’ve written my own libraries, libraries that already exist elsewhere, because I want to learn. What AI is doing to my industry makes me very sad.
Yeah, it’s sucked all the joy out of professional development :(
I mostly enjoy the problem solving and a challenge.
Before LLMs often code wasn’t actually the hard part, it was more just a procedural break I got between the design or trying to figure out the best problem to solve, rather than just solving the obvious one.
So I always was looking to write the library that encoded conventions for the tradeoffs we want once and reuse it instead of writing bespoke code for every product, which seems to be the road more travelled.
So a multiplicative effect, so I can refocus on the hard parts sooner.
LLMs sure don’t help the tendency to solve the obvious problem and writing bespoke code every time though.